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Indiana Hoosiers' "Soft Schedule" Doesn't Tell the Whole Story

Much has been made about the schedule so far. A large contingency of critics who are still uncertain about Indiana basketball point to the schedule for a crutch. They will tell you Indiana hasn’t played anyone outside of Bloomington or their cupcake schedule is providing all of those wins. This however is merely a meme and not the true case. Indiana has played an above average difficulty of schedule and many just don’t see it or want to admit it. Currently according to Pomeroy, IU has played the 68th toughest schedule in the nation. That is good enough for fifth in the conference, behind only Michigan State, Michigan, Northwestern and Nebraska.

Don’t like Ken Pomeroy? Jeff Sagarin’s chess style ranking, which ranks teams solely on who they’ve beat has Indiana third in the nation behind Syracuse and Baylor. In other words, Indiana is the third best team in the nation if you go solely on who they’ve played and in turn beat in the first 16 games. Take away performance in games and look at IU solely in terms of who they’ve gone toe-to-toe with and they are a top five team. So actual competition and results should kill a lot of the criticism, because you know it isn’t actually true.

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Sure Indiana had a weak non-conference schedule but it was no more weak than most major conference teams play. Indiana’s non-conference schedule (NC) is 278th in the nation. That is poor enough to finish 9th in the B1G. However, only two schools in the conference, MichiganState and Northwestern, even break the top 200 barrier. In fact, the average NC strength of schedule for the B1G is sitting steady at 245. In essence, NO ONE in the conference plays a hard NC. If Indiana adds a pre-season tournament to their resume instead of two-three of its current games, it lands pretty easily in the top half of the conference and likely in the top five.

The true gauge of how good Indiana is in the end not their schedule and who they have played. The true gauge of ability is how they have played. It took Indiana eight games before they played a game where they won by less than 11 points and that took the number one team in the nation and a final four favorite to come to Bloomington to end that streak. In fact, of the 15 wins Indiana has, only 4 of them can be considered close games. The rest were blowouts of other teams.

That leads us to another point on the schedule. Doesn’t making a decent team look bad show how good Indiana is and not how bad the opposing team is? Indiana had an off night and beat a Notre Dame team who is 2-1 in the Big East and has played the 4th hardest schedule of that respective conference. They went into Louisville and beat a top 10 team and were the kindling of the current dumpster fire that is Pittsburgh. Indiana soundly trounced a retooling Butler team that can still on any given day knock off a major opponent (Purdue and Stanford). Indiana’s schedule hasn’t been the hardest but even the teams they have played have not looked great. Doesn’t Indiana get credit for that? Kentucky is pasted for lack of execution in Bloomington, Ohio State for not accomplishing their game plan, Michigan for playing outside of their abilities. Does IU get no credit for those things? According to many bloggers and pundits, Indiana doesn’t win, the hard teams lay down and quit.

In the end, Indiana can only play who they are scheduled to play. The have the second hardest schedule to start off Big Ten play and are 3-1 as a result. I think it is high time that people quit focusing on a "weak schedule", it isn’t, and start looking at the results. Indiana is pasting teams they are supposed to paste (minus PennState) and show signs of being human against top flight teams. Instead of the criticism they are catching, the Hoosiers should be getting credit for achieving much greater heights and competing for a conference title (so far) in a year they were expected to only be OK.

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I feel like for as many comments I've heard about IU's soft schedule

I’ve heard more praise about what a turnaround this season has been. I would wager that most of the B1G is sick of hearing about the resurgence in Bloomington and are so annoyed that they’re searching for ways to discredit it. That’s all it is, really. Plus the national media can crank out 10 easy articles a day debating whether IU is great or overrated. Then everyone and their mom reads those articles because IU is fun to watch so everyyyyybody is watching and forms opinions that they want backed up. It’s nothing against IU, I think. They just happen to be the story of the minute. Which I’m sure enrages Purdue fans which in turn makes me smile. God damn do I love this team.

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by 87 Rides A Surfboard on Jan 9, 2012 11:55 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

other quick scheduling note

of the 5 other teams either 3-0 or 3-1 in conference, Indiana has has the hardest conference schedule to date. The others fall in at Mich. State (3-0) 4th, Ohio State 11th, Michigan 7th, Purdue 10th, Illinois 12th.

-Contributing Writer at The Crimson Quarry.

by JustAJ on Jan 9, 2012 12:06 PM EST reply actions  

Speaking of Illinois

Like IU, we have recently played both Minnesota and Ohio State on our home court. I’d say we had better results than IU in both of those games. So it’s not just the schedule, it’s what you do with it. I give more weight to HOME LOSSES and ROAD WINS, than I do to home wins and road losses. It depends on the competitiveness of the game in any case, naturally.

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by SunnyGuy53 on Jan 16, 2012 6:10 AM EST up reply actions  

I think some of it is based on a lack of precision. I think it is possible for IU to be both deserving of its ranking and to fit some definitions of overrated. I don’t actually think that IU is one of the ten best teams in the country, but I do think we are at least that high in terms of actual accomplishment. I wish our critics would argue that IU doesn’t have what it takes to maintain that ranking over the next two months. That would be a supportable argument, agree or disagree. What doesn’t make sense is poking holes in a schedule that includes wins over two of last year’s final four teams, last years regular season number one, a road win against an NC State team that looks NCAA worthy, and includes only one highly defensible loss.

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by John M (The Crimson Quarry) on Jan 9, 2012 12:49 PM EST via Android app reply actions  

Also

There is a perception that Butler and Notre Dame are “down”. I’m not sure that’s true, and it is looking like both of them may make the tournament. Still, they at least looked that way at the time of those games. But when you put the schedule together, how are you to know that those two teams would not be playing at the level which each of them has the past 2-3 years? Anyway, it’s not unreasonable to think that IU has already played seven teams that could be in the tourney (including Butler, ND and NCSt). I doubt you would find many other teams who have played that many. And we are 6-1 against that competition.

by hoosierdaddynow on Jan 9, 2012 1:26 PM EST reply actions  

Joe Lunardi released his most recent bracketology today

Indiana is a 2 seed and playing in Louisville. In that bracket anything less than an Elite Eight showing would be disappointing. IU would have to beat Cleveland St., Mississippi State and Kansas to get a game against North Carolina in the Elite Eight.

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by JustAJ on Jan 9, 2012 4:09 PM EST reply actions  

bracketology in January..hhhmmm.

any brackets before March 11 dont count and a lot of variables. But, in all respect to IU they are fighting for #1-4 seed and will play close to home.

by spartynation on Jan 9, 2012 4:18 PM EST up reply actions  

What it does say

Is that if the tournament started tomorrow that is where IU would be. It says tons about how the season has gone, nothing about how it will finish.

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by JustAJ on Jan 9, 2012 5:34 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

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by Uncle Menno on Jan 9, 2012 5:02 PM EST reply actions   3 recs

Citation request, please.
Indiana’s non-conference schedule (NC) is 278th in the nation.

Could you tell me who’s rating you’re using for that? I’d like to see what schools have strong NC schedules. I suspect that it’s actually smaller schools which have the most impressive ones, since most of them go “head hunting” major powers in the non-conference games in order to be seen and make TV money. I’d love to see what the traditional “big” conference schools besides the B10 rank, and obviously I predict that they’ll be surprisingly low. We’ll see. At any rate, that’s my testable hypothesis: That NC schedule strength is not that high for traditional powers. I’d like to test that against your source in order to make that judgement against the same data set.

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by E.M.H. on Jan 9, 2012 10:49 PM EST reply actions  

Pomeroy

I’ll check it out myself

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by JustAJ on Jan 10, 2012 8:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Thanks for the info.

That’s nowhere near as low as I thought it would be. But at the same time, I do think I still have a point that non-conference strength of schedule is not as high for top tier teams as a lot of people like to think. I may dive into those ratings myself later to see how well my hypothesis holds up.

Thanks again for checking, man.

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Then they came for the nerds, and I did not speak out because D&D IS A RESPECTABLE GAME WITH A LARGE PLAYERBASE OK MOM???
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out because let's be real they always come for the Jews.
Then they came for me, and I did not speak out because they actually came for me back when they came for the nerds."

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by E.M.H. on Jan 10, 2012 12:21 PM EST up reply actions  

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