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Indiana Hoosiers at Penn St. Nittany Lions, Jan 8, 2012 12:00 PM EST


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IU seeks its third road win of the season, and seeks the second Big Ten road win of the Crean era (at the same place where the first happened, two years ago). Go IU!

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"It's an easy game, man. Easy game."
~Edgerrin James

by 87 Rides A Surfboard on Jan 8, 2012 11:14 AM EST reply actions  

I keep seeing people talking about Indiana's "road woes" out in B1G Blogland

What the hell are they talking about? How does one loss (our only loss) to Michigan State at Breslin constitute “road woes?” Why does nobody remember NC State, Evansville, and the neutral site win over ND? I guess people are just not paying attention.

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by LoneStarHoosier on Jan 8, 2012 11:54 AM EST reply actions  

its a meme

people can’t pay attention to IU like we do, so when one major media outlet picks it up everyone else runs with it.

-Contributing Writer at The Crimson Quarry.

by JustAJ on Jan 8, 2012 12:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Not only do we need this win

but we need to win big to shut up the haters.

-Contributing Writer at The Crimson Quarry.

by JustAJ on Jan 8, 2012 12:03 PM EST reply actions  

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by JustAJ on Jan 8, 2012 12:08 PM EST reply actions  

wasn't mentioned here but Sheehey is in warmups and shot around with the team

not likely to play today but it sounds like he is good to go for the near future.

-Contributing Writer at The Crimson Quarry.

by JustAJ on Jan 8, 2012 12:12 PM EST reply actions  

the artillery is active today

long barrage from both teams to start the game.

-Contributing Writer at The Crimson Quarry.

by JustAJ on Jan 8, 2012 12:18 PM EST reply actions  

I don't know

but it is really starting to bother me. I could write it off as MSU and Ohio State being stacked in the front court but Penn State should not be doing this in the post. I know they’re a very good rebounding team and what not but we shouldn’t be getting abused in the paint like this.

-Contributing Writer at The Crimson Quarry.

by JustAJ on Jan 8, 2012 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Items of concern:

*no defense inside.
*Rebounding, again.

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by LoneStarHoosier on Jan 8, 2012 12:25 PM EST reply actions  

Zelller with two big defensive plays in the last two trips down

he needs to assert himself on that end more moving forward.

-Contributing Writer at The Crimson Quarry.

by JustAJ on Jan 8, 2012 12:27 PM EST reply actions  

that's a bad call

moving screen on Elston

-Contributing Writer at The Crimson Quarry.

by JustAJ on Jan 8, 2012 12:27 PM EST reply actions  

offensive foul on a break against Jones

officials have been calling offensive on a lot of contact that is blocking this season. IU has probably been the biggest benefactor of this shift in officiating but it still pisses me off when it goes against us.

-Contributing Writer at The Crimson Quarry.

by JustAJ on Jan 8, 2012 12:29 PM EST reply actions  

OT- weird that Bill O'Brien is going to coach through the playoffs with the Pats, rather than

get down to business with his new team/school. That’s got to piss off Penn State fans.

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by LoneStarHoosier on Jan 8, 2012 12:30 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah Pritch!

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by LoneStarHoosier on Jan 8, 2012 12:38 PM EST reply actions  

that is an atrocious call!

jump ball?!?!?! Puh-lease!!

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by JustAJ on Jan 8, 2012 12:42 PM EST reply actions  

Goddamnit. Can we defend at all in the paint?

You’d think we were playing a team full of Shaqs

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by LoneStarHoosier on Jan 8, 2012 12:45 PM EST reply actions  

Ed Hightower is not a very good official

but neither is half of the B1G crews

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by JustAJ on Jan 8, 2012 12:46 PM EST reply actions  

Jesus, Jordan.

What happened, man?

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by LoneStarHoosier on Jan 8, 2012 12:48 PM EST reply actions  

Lots to think about here.

1. We’re getting beat in the paint on offense and defense.
2. Rebounding. We seemed pretty good at forcing the first miss, but not defending the second, because we allowed a second.

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by LoneStarHoosier on Jan 8, 2012 12:53 PM EST reply actions  

Penn State is shooting 10% better than average

and killing it on the offensive boards. That is how this is only a 5 point game despite the three point clinic put on by IU.

-Contributing Writer at The Crimson Quarry.

by JustAJ on Jan 8, 2012 12:54 PM EST reply actions  

You really can't use that stat of "1-29 in Big Ten road games"

I don’t think you can apply any stats from the previous three seasons to this team. This is clearly new waters for Crean’s teams.

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by LoneStarHoosier on Jan 8, 2012 12:54 PM EST reply actions  

Really wish that last second 3 by Hulls would've gone in.

We would’ve matched Purdue’s game total in one stinkin half.

But even more than that I wish we could get it inside more and could attack the boards better. Although it seems like PSU has gotten a LOT of lucky bounces that have aided their rebound numbers (offensive boards especially).

"It's an easy game, man. Easy game."
~Edgerrin James

by 87 Rides A Surfboard on Jan 8, 2012 12:59 PM EST reply actions  

It's more than luck.

We just don’t seem to be going after rebounds or defending inside. I feel like I’ve made that same observation for several games now. It’s a growing concern.

Someone on the HT chat said Zeller has only taken two shots. That might have something to do with it, if that’s true.

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by LoneStarHoosier on Jan 8, 2012 1:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh, don't get me wrong

we are neither attacking the glass nor boxing out. I’m just saying that the numbers are at least somewhat inflated by some lucky breaks for PSU. We’d be losing the board battle regardless.

"It's an easy game, man. Easy game."
~Edgerrin James

by 87 Rides A Surfboard on Jan 8, 2012 1:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Talk to AJ.

I don’t have the patience to watch film and do that kind of breakdown. Hell, I can’t do more than offer knee-jerk reactions.

"It's an easy game, man. Easy game."
~Edgerrin James

by 87 Rides A Surfboard on Jan 8, 2012 1:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I might try and do that at some point

don’t really have the software to provide video breakdown, but I’ll take a closer look at where we’re failing on the glass.

-Contributing Writer at The Crimson Quarry.

by JustAJ on Jan 8, 2012 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Clearly the keys to winning this game are:

1. Improve our interior defense.
2. Rebound.
3. Have the broadcast crew interview Bill O’Brien again and go on a run while they aren’t paying attention.

by ChicagoHoosier on Jan 8, 2012 1:03 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Another three!

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by LoneStarHoosier on Jan 8, 2012 1:09 PM EST reply actions  

This is what I hoped to see opening the second half.

Cody is more involved, we just seem to be more on it.

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by LoneStarHoosier on Jan 8, 2012 1:11 PM EST reply actions  

Nice, Remy.

"You, sir, are addressing a man, who is in fact quiet... and yet, not quiet, if I may offer to you a riddle."

by Corvus on Jan 8, 2012 1:34 PM EST reply actions  

Roth is on fire!

"You, sir, are addressing a man, who is in fact quiet... and yet, not quiet, if I may offer to you a riddle."

by Corvus on Jan 8, 2012 1:37 PM EST reply actions  

I wish I could tell you. I’m following a ticker on Yahoo Sports.

"You, sir, are addressing a man, who is in fact quiet... and yet, not quiet, if I may offer to you a riddle."

by Corvus on Jan 8, 2012 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Hulls!

"You, sir, are addressing a man, who is in fact quiet... and yet, not quiet, if I may offer to you a riddle."

by Corvus on Jan 8, 2012 1:43 PM EST reply actions  

Ugh.

"You, sir, are addressing a man, who is in fact quiet... and yet, not quiet, if I may offer to you a riddle."

by Corvus on Jan 8, 2012 1:45 PM EST reply actions  

Woo!

"You, sir, are addressing a man, who is in fact quiet... and yet, not quiet, if I may offer to you a riddle."

by Corvus on Jan 8, 2012 1:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes! Roth!

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by LoneStarHoosier on Jan 8, 2012 1:45 PM EST reply actions  

Roth of God!

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by LoneStarHoosier on Jan 8, 2012 1:46 PM EST reply actions  

Niiiiice.

"You, sir, are addressing a man, who is in fact quiet... and yet, not quiet, if I may offer to you a riddle."

by Corvus on Jan 8, 2012 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

We look awful.

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by LoneStarHoosier on Jan 8, 2012 2:04 PM EST reply actions  

Bloody hell.

"You, sir, are addressing a man, who is in fact quiet... and yet, not quiet, if I may offer to you a riddle."

by Corvus on Jan 8, 2012 2:10 PM EST reply actions  

84-82 IU…21 seconds.

"You, sir, are addressing a man, who is in fact quiet... and yet, not quiet, if I may offer to you a riddle."

by Corvus on Jan 8, 2012 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Thank God that's over.

Nice win! Now, time to drive home from South Bend.

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by LoneStarHoosier on Jan 8, 2012 2:18 PM EST reply actions  

Lots to criticize.

But a win’s a win.

"It's an easy game, man. Easy game."
~Edgerrin James

by 87 Rides A Surfboard on Jan 8, 2012 2:21 PM EST reply actions  

Ok. not the best end to the game, but I'll take it.

As bad as that end was, I’m heartened by the fact that IU pretty much led all of it. They didn’t fold when Penn State came at them. That’s a good thing.

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Then they came for me, and I did not speak out because they actually came for me back when they came for the nerds."

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by E.M.H. on Jan 8, 2012 2:22 PM EST reply actions  

So... we hit 64% of our threes - 16 of 25

and only pulled away in the final 20 seconds?

Our defense must have been gashed. From the box score it appears that Watford reverted towards the mean: 2-9 from the field, but he did grab 8 boards.

by nothsa on Jan 8, 2012 2:23 PM EST reply actions  

The rebounding was a huge problem

and I think the defense got tentative towards the end because the refs all the sudden started calling fouls pretty tightly. Hoosiers did what they had to in order to win. Roth should get huge applause not only for hitting all those 3s but for coolly hitting those FTs at the end.

Props to Penn State as well. They played well and fought to the end. Need to start filling up that arena, though. The lack of fan support is a little embarrassing.

"It's an easy game, man. Easy game."
~Edgerrin James

by 87 Rides A Surfboard on Jan 8, 2012 2:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Good context by Ryan Corazza

Inside the Hall notes that Indiana actually held Penn State below their offensive rebounding rate average by a good 10%. That is something PSU is actually good at – so while I’m sure it was frustrating as heck to watch, we might give the Lions some credit here. (http://www.insidethehall.com/2012/01/08/the-minute-after-penn-state-3/)

And walking out with a narrow win is unequivocally good news, even as the Hoosiers had to shoot very well to do it – the Boilers had played pretty decently on the road against better teams before getting clobbered a few days ago.

Also, very glad to see Hulls bounce back and Matt Roth finally get a chance to do what he does best.

by Devin S. on Jan 8, 2012 3:40 PM EST up reply actions  

It'll be this evening before the wrap is up

all three of us are currently in different positions of indisposed.

-Contributing Writer at The Crimson Quarry.

by JustAJ on Jan 8, 2012 2:51 PM EST reply actions  

As AJ noted, I am out of state and haven’t seen a minute of the game or the box score, but given IU’s board numbers and Penn States, I am not shocked that they outboarded us. It has been one of their few overall strengths. The most troubling thing to me is the mini trend of allowing teams that we could have finished earlier to stick around. I did catch part of the game on radio, and XM had the Penn State feed. Their guys were effusive about how different this Penn State team has been in the last two games. For what it is worth, they seem to think the team has turned a corner, which wouldn’t be terribly surprising with a young squad and new coach.

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