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Indiana Hoosiers at Nebraska Cornhuskers, Jan 18, 2012 7:00 PM EST


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IU heads to Lincoln, and hopefully we all will be much more calm in about 3.5 hours. Go Hoosiers!

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by John M (The Crimson Quarry) on Jan 18, 2012 6:11 PM EST reply actions  

here we go!

need a big W on the road. This is a hinge moment in the season.

-Contributing Writer at The Crimson Quarry.

by JustAJ on Jan 18, 2012 7:03 PM EST reply actions  

3 points from Hulls to start the scoring

good swing rhythm on the perimeter on the offensive side so far.

-Contributing Writer at The Crimson Quarry.

by JustAJ on Jan 18, 2012 7:04 PM EST reply actions  

Hoosiers pushing the tempo early

good move too. Nebraska isn’t a great shooting team. Maximizing possessions is key.

-Contributing Writer at The Crimson Quarry.

by JustAJ on Jan 18, 2012 7:05 PM EST reply actions  

the meme really applies for Watford

as Watford goes so go the Hoosiers.

-Contributing Writer at The Crimson Quarry.

by JustAJ on Jan 18, 2012 7:10 PM EST up reply actions  

gotta do better on defense

I’m really concerned about how the conference defense has been. Awful doesn’t even begin to describe it.

-Contributing Writer at The Crimson Quarry.

by JustAJ on Jan 18, 2012 7:13 PM EST reply actions  

Will has been great since coming back from injury

still looks a bit slow though

-Contributing Writer at The Crimson Quarry.

by JustAJ on Jan 18, 2012 7:13 PM EST reply actions  

always freaking fighting each other over rebounds

game in and game out we’re deflecting easy rebounds away from each other. That has got to stop.

-Contributing Writer at The Crimson Quarry.

by JustAJ on Jan 18, 2012 7:15 PM EST reply actions  

nice crossover by Watford

would really like a BIG game out of him tonight. His confidence seems to be failing him a bit.

-Contributing Writer at The Crimson Quarry.

by JustAJ on Jan 18, 2012 7:17 PM EST reply actions  

great recovery by Pritch to get the block

I seriously am going to miss that guy next year.

-Contributing Writer at The Crimson Quarry.

by JustAJ on Jan 18, 2012 7:18 PM EST reply actions  

good lord

even when we play good defense they hit the hard shots.

-Contributing Writer at The Crimson Quarry.

by JustAJ on Jan 18, 2012 7:20 PM EST reply actions  

didn't see what Pritch did there?

seems like a very quick whistle though.

-Contributing Writer at The Crimson Quarry.

by JustAJ on Jan 18, 2012 7:21 PM EST reply actions  

Maybe taunting?

I really didn’t see anything. Maybe they’ll show a replay.

A sassy, brassy, classy lassy.

by LoneStarHoosier on Jan 18, 2012 7:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Looked like some bullshit to me.

Unless he called him a name. Zero tolerance is the rule now, I guess, all of a sudden.

A sassy, brassy, classy lassy.

by LoneStarHoosier on Jan 18, 2012 7:23 PM EST up reply actions  

for anyone that even kinda pays attention to women's college bball

does it seem like Sammy Prahalis has been at Ohio State for a decade?

-Contributing Writer at The Crimson Quarry.

by JustAJ on Jan 18, 2012 7:23 PM EST reply actions  

pretty weak foul

we’ll take it

-Contributing Writer at The Crimson Quarry.

by JustAJ on Jan 18, 2012 7:29 PM EST reply actions  

no recognition of how much time was left

hard to have confidence in a team when it does that two to three times a game

-Contributing Writer at The Crimson Quarry.

by JustAJ on Jan 18, 2012 7:31 PM EST reply actions  

A nice defensive possession there.

Forcing a travel low in the shot clock.

A sassy, brassy, classy lassy.

by LoneStarHoosier on Jan 18, 2012 7:40 PM EST reply actions  

back to back poor passes by Watford

he’s been in a slump and needs to find himself again.

-Contributing Writer at The Crimson Quarry.

by JustAJ on Jan 18, 2012 7:41 PM EST reply actions  

Cody needs to touch the ball more.

Cody needs to touch the ball more.
Cody needs to touch the ball more.
Cody needs to touch the ball more.
Cody needs to touch the ball more.
Cody needs to touch the ball more.

A sassy, brassy, classy lassy.

by LoneStarHoosier on Jan 18, 2012 7:53 PM EST reply actions  

In the english language, it goes left to right, top to bottom.

… oh wait, that’s not what you mean. ;)

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"First they came for the ugly, and I did not speak out because I was not ugly.
Then they came for the nerds, and I did not speak out because D&D IS A RESPECTABLE GAME WITH A LARGE PLAYERBASE OK MOM???
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out because let's be real they always come for the Jews.
Then they came for me, and I did not speak out because they actually came for me back when they came for the nerds."

--
"How can a pickup truck contain enough mass to unfold into a towering machine? I say if Ringling Brothers can get 15 clowns into a Volkswagen, anything is possible."

Roger Ebert, Transformers review.

by E.M.H. on Jan 18, 2012 7:57 PM EST up reply actions  

lol

A sassy, brassy, classy lassy.

by LoneStarHoosier on Jan 18, 2012 8:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Hmm... IU's got the lead, but I wish they looked better on the floor.

Man, I wish Crean would coach their tendency to jump-block at so many shots out of the team. A team with smart ballhandlers will head fake the hell out of the team and leave poor Zeller 1 on 4 in the low post at some point while Wat, Jones, Sheekey, and Hulls are still recovering from their flybys at half court. That’s aggravating.

And I wish the passes were smarter and crisper, but that’s not a huge worry tonight. It’s thinking ahead, and wondering how many defensively-oriented players are salivating at the thought of those long, long passes just hanging in the air for them.

That said, it’s never a bad night when your team’s got the lead. In spite of the flaws, they’re ahead. Maybe not comfortably, but there’s still a real, multiple possession lead going there. On the road, that’s never a bad thing.

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"First they came for the ugly, and I did not speak out because I was not ugly.
Then they came for the nerds, and I did not speak out because D&D IS A RESPECTABLE GAME WITH A LARGE PLAYERBASE OK MOM???
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out because let's be real they always come for the Jews.
Then they came for me, and I did not speak out because they actually came for me back when they came for the nerds."

--
"How can a pickup truck contain enough mass to unfold into a towering machine? I say if Ringling Brothers can get 15 clowns into a Volkswagen, anything is possible."

Roger Ebert, Transformers review.

by E.M.H. on Jan 18, 2012 7:54 PM EST reply actions  

alright

we’re a second half team, let’s up the pace and intensity and blow these guys away.

-Contributing Writer at The Crimson Quarry.

by JustAJ on Jan 18, 2012 8:01 PM EST reply actions  

great passing

unfortunate in and out on the Oladipo three

-Contributing Writer at The Crimson Quarry.

by JustAJ on Jan 18, 2012 8:02 PM EST reply actions  

Nebraska with a good junk defense there

had us on our heels starting in zone and switching to man half way through the offensive set.

-Contributing Writer at The Crimson Quarry.

by JustAJ on Jan 18, 2012 8:05 PM EST reply actions  

Seeing too much of Cody milling around looking bored inside, and the other four guys looking for an open shot outside

before going in for a two. At that point, if Cody gets it, it’s a bucket.

A sassy, brassy, classy lassy.

by LoneStarHoosier on Jan 18, 2012 8:08 PM EST reply actions  

Cody should have 20 every night

as efficient as he is, he needs double the touches.

-Contributing Writer at The Crimson Quarry.

by JustAJ on Jan 18, 2012 8:09 PM EST up reply actions  

And there's the psychology of having a big scoring monster in the paint.

The more aggressive he is on offense, the more he will be on D.

A sassy, brassy, classy lassy.

by LoneStarHoosier on Jan 18, 2012 8:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Thus the problem of not having a true point guard running the offense.

We need someone who handles the ball well but doesn’t look to shoot all the time and dish to the open guy every time.

by ChicagoHoosier on Jan 18, 2012 8:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Again with the Zeller score.

Just pass it to him.

A sassy, brassy, classy lassy.

by LoneStarHoosier on Jan 18, 2012 8:14 PM EST reply actions  

bad call

that was out of bounds on Nebraska

-Contributing Writer at The Crimson Quarry.

by JustAJ on Jan 18, 2012 8:19 PM EST reply actions  

On the one hand, IU's still got the lead.

On the other hand, the game should be basically over by now, yet IU’s lead is not that large.

They need their mojo back. They had some swagger in the preseason, but now…. yeech.

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"First they came for the ugly, and I did not speak out because I was not ugly.
Then they came for the nerds, and I did not speak out because D&D IS A RESPECTABLE GAME WITH A LARGE PLAYERBASE OK MOM???
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out because let's be real they always come for the Jews.
Then they came for me, and I did not speak out because they actually came for me back when they came for the nerds."

--
"How can a pickup truck contain enough mass to unfold into a towering machine? I say if Ringling Brothers can get 15 clowns into a Volkswagen, anything is possible."

Roger Ebert, Transformers review.

by E.M.H. on Jan 18, 2012 8:20 PM EST reply actions  

the offense is fine minus boneheaded turnovers

the defense not so much. There just seems to be a lack of killer instinct that we saw at the beginning of the season. Confidence seems to have flushed from the team entering conference play. Starting to wonder if the last few seasons of conference struggles are getting to them.

-Contributing Writer at The Crimson Quarry.

by JustAJ on Jan 18, 2012 8:23 PM EST up reply actions  

everyone and their dog seems to be capable of baiting us into bad passes

they all just sit back and wait for the passing motion to start and then pick it off.

-Contributing Writer at The Crimson Quarry.

by JustAJ on Jan 18, 2012 8:25 PM EST up reply actions  

IU's defense reminds me of Top Gun.

Buzzing the tower with all those flybys… :-/

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"First they came for the ugly, and I did not speak out because I was not ugly.
Then they came for the nerds, and I did not speak out because D&D IS A RESPECTABLE GAME WITH A LARGE PLAYERBASE OK MOM???
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out because let's be real they always come for the Jews.
Then they came for me, and I did not speak out because they actually came for me back when they came for the nerds."

--
"How can a pickup truck contain enough mass to unfold into a towering machine? I say if Ringling Brothers can get 15 clowns into a Volkswagen, anything is possible."

Roger Ebert, Transformers review.

by E.M.H. on Jan 18, 2012 8:30 PM EST reply actions  

If Victor keeps leaving his feet on perimeter shots...

… I’m going to start posting “Negative, Ghostrider, the pattern is full”.

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"First they came for the ugly, and I did not speak out because I was not ugly.
Then they came for the nerds, and I did not speak out because D&D IS A RESPECTABLE GAME WITH A LARGE PLAYERBASE OK MOM???
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out because let's be real they always come for the Jews.
Then they came for me, and I did not speak out because they actually came for me back when they came for the nerds."

--
"How can a pickup truck contain enough mass to unfold into a towering machine? I say if Ringling Brothers can get 15 clowns into a Volkswagen, anything is possible."

Roger Ebert, Transformers review.

by E.M.H. on Jan 18, 2012 8:34 PM EST up reply actions  

watford watched tally shot that

nice defense, doofus

Whenever you get stressed, always remember: RDWHAHB

by danorocks17 on Jan 18, 2012 8:40 PM EST reply actions  

*shoot

Whenever you get stressed, always remember: RDWHAHB

by danorocks17 on Jan 18, 2012 8:40 PM EST up reply actions  

And this is why you put a team away, instead of just pissing around while in the lead.

IU’s just… not there.

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"First they came for the ugly, and I did not speak out because I was not ugly.
Then they came for the nerds, and I did not speak out because D&D IS A RESPECTABLE GAME WITH A LARGE PLAYERBASE OK MOM???
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out because let's be real they always come for the Jews.
Then they came for me, and I did not speak out because they actually came for me back when they came for the nerds."

--
"How can a pickup truck contain enough mass to unfold into a towering machine? I say if Ringling Brothers can get 15 clowns into a Volkswagen, anything is possible."

Roger Ebert, Transformers review.

by E.M.H. on Jan 18, 2012 8:41 PM EST reply actions  

verdell

Whenever you get stressed, always remember: RDWHAHB

by danorocks17 on Jan 18, 2012 8:48 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

What happened to our game?

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"First they came for the ugly, and I did not speak out because I was not ugly.
Then they came for the nerds, and I did not speak out because D&D IS A RESPECTABLE GAME WITH A LARGE PLAYERBASE OK MOM???
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out because let's be real they always come for the Jews.
Then they came for me, and I did not speak out because they actually came for me back when they came for the nerds."

--
"How can a pickup truck contain enough mass to unfold into a towering machine? I say if Ringling Brothers can get 15 clowns into a Volkswagen, anything is possible."

Roger Ebert, Transformers review.

by E.M.H. on Jan 18, 2012 8:51 PM EST up reply actions  

ice water

Whenever you get stressed, always remember: RDWHAHB

by danorocks17 on Jan 18, 2012 8:53 PM EST up reply actions  

never mind about the ice water

Whenever you get stressed, always remember: RDWHAHB

by danorocks17 on Jan 18, 2012 8:54 PM EST reply actions  

what the hell happened to this team?

Whenever you get stressed, always remember: RDWHAHB

by danorocks17 on Jan 18, 2012 8:55 PM EST reply actions  

We do not deserve to be ranked.

I’m going to go swim. That was a fucking disgrace. I’m just…bye. Goodbye.

A sassy, brassy, classy lassy.

by LoneStarHoosier on Jan 18, 2012 8:57 PM EST reply actions  

If I were Crean, I'd have the players doing wind sprints for the entire practice tomorrow.

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"First they came for the ugly, and I did not speak out because I was not ugly.
Then they came for the nerds, and I did not speak out because D&D IS A RESPECTABLE GAME WITH A LARGE PLAYERBASE OK MOM???
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out because let's be real they always come for the Jews.
Then they came for me, and I did not speak out because they actually came for me back when they came for the nerds."

--
"How can a pickup truck contain enough mass to unfold into a towering machine? I say if Ringling Brothers can get 15 clowns into a Volkswagen, anything is possible."

Roger Ebert, Transformers review.

by E.M.H. on Jan 18, 2012 8:58 PM EST reply actions  

Sorry guys i was pulling for you

At least you didn’t lose by 20 to the shit team that is Penn St like we did.

by dropnthrow7 on Jan 18, 2012 8:58 PM EST reply actions  

I don't know where to begin.

When Zeller fell down, VO was just standing there.

At the end, instead of calling a timeout and imposing a play on Nebraska, who would’ve been playing on their heels, IU pisses the possession away and makes a dumb pair of shots. Again, with timeouts left.

All the game, they never put the pedal down and strangled the opponent.

All through the game, they kept on giving them good looks, and on the other end, kept on hanging passes out for them to intercept. No good ball protection at all.

It’s like they forgot how to play all of a sudden. They’re making mistakes they weren’t committing earlier this year. They’re making dumb passes, they’re taking dumb shots. I don’t know why they’re regressing, but they’re regressing badly.

Crean needs to coach the team’s head out of their asses. They need to fight for those rebounds. Bob Knight said that rebounding was directly linked to effort, and when the ball’s not in their hands, they’re not putting out enough effort.

This is maddening. At least IU was supposed to lose to OSU and Michigan State. At least Minnesota was a team that had a bad record due only to bad breaks. But Nebraska… IU shouldn’t dominated them with even a bad game. Instead, they hand the game to them.

They need to be coached out of their funk now. They’re playing sloppy and bad. If Crean doesn’t get them over the hump, they’re going to slide straight downhill.

It’s early in the season yet. There’s still time to turn this around. But dammit… they need to turn it around.

Enough writing. This stream of consciousness post will go on forever if I don’t stop.

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"First they came for the ugly, and I did not speak out because I was not ugly.
Then they came for the nerds, and I did not speak out because D&D IS A RESPECTABLE GAME WITH A LARGE PLAYERBASE OK MOM???
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out because let's be real they always come for the Jews.
Then they came for me, and I did not speak out because they actually came for me back when they came for the nerds."

--
"How can a pickup truck contain enough mass to unfold into a towering machine? I say if Ringling Brothers can get 15 clowns into a Volkswagen, anything is possible."

Roger Ebert, Transformers review.

by E.M.H. on Jan 18, 2012 9:05 PM EST reply actions  

Boy, is Roy Hobbson ever right.
IU’s favorite offensive play out of timeouts is the SPAZ ’N FREEZE, which if run properly, should free a man up for a 29 ft blocked shot. :(

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"First they came for the ugly, and I did not speak out because I was not ugly.
Then they came for the nerds, and I did not speak out because D&D IS A RESPECTABLE GAME WITH A LARGE PLAYERBASE OK MOM???
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out because let's be real they always come for the Jews.
Then they came for me, and I did not speak out because they actually came for me back when they came for the nerds."

--
"How can a pickup truck contain enough mass to unfold into a towering machine? I say if Ringling Brothers can get 15 clowns into a Volkswagen, anything is possible."

Roger Ebert, Transformers review.

by E.M.H. on Jan 18, 2012 9:11 PM EST reply actions  

Not only did IU need this win

But I wanted this win. I’m also a fan of the Packers (and part owner), and after the “performance” that was Sunday’s game I needed a pick me up. I have now been kicked in the crotch after being down from being kicked in the crotch. Two straight kicks to the crotch. Go Pacers.

by smileyfacejackson on Jan 18, 2012 9:15 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions  

Sky is now falling.

IU isn’t the team I thought they were and I no longer have confidence that they’re going to turn it around to be the amazing team we saw in the pre-conference schedule. CTC just lost himself coach of the year and my new goal is a 6 seed. I’m so incredibly pissed right now. Bring on all the haters who said that IU can’t close games out on the road. They were right. Damn it all.

"It's an easy game, man. Easy game."
~Edgerrin James

by 87 Rides A Surfboard on Jan 18, 2012 9:17 PM EST reply actions  

Now, as bad as this game was, it's far from being the end of the season.

I’m still right about my assertion that all these problems are correctable. I’m just disappointed that they haven’t made any progress towards correcting any of it, but it still remains that the problems can be overcome with hard, hard work and decent coaching.

Start blocking out. Start working when the ball’s not in their hands. Start throwing better passes. Start grabbing instead of tipping rebounds. Start staying on their feet instead of getting airborne on shot fakes.

It’s a choice to be bad. The players may not realize that yet, but it’s a choice to not listen and not try to change when things are going wrong. Crean needs to get that across to them. There’s still plenty of season to come back, but at the same time there’s no time like the present to start. No reason to put off the improvement.

They need to buckle down and change. Just get their collective heads back up and playing smart again.

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"First they came for the ugly, and I did not speak out because I was not ugly.
Then they came for the nerds, and I did not speak out because D&D IS A RESPECTABLE GAME WITH A LARGE PLAYERBASE OK MOM???
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out because let's be real they always come for the Jews.
Then they came for me, and I did not speak out because they actually came for me back when they came for the nerds."

--
"How can a pickup truck contain enough mass to unfold into a towering machine? I say if Ringling Brothers can get 15 clowns into a Volkswagen, anything is possible."

Roger Ebert, Transformers review.

by E.M.H. on Jan 18, 2012 9:24 PM EST reply actions  

Yes to that last sentance.

I truly hope they can do that. I doubt now that it can happen this year. Crean seems too set in his rotations. Like you said players that make mistakes and don’t box out just keep getting minutes. That cannot happen. In order for the team to change Crean has to adapt as well.

"It's an easy game, man. Easy game."
~Edgerrin James

by 87 Rides A Surfboard on Jan 18, 2012 9:45 PM EST up reply actions  

This is the first time this year they've choked down the stretch

Against NC State, Kentucky, and Ohio State they showed great poise in the final couple of minutes. Total opposite tonight by giving up an essentially dead ball rebound under the basket and then having Hulls of all players miss the front end of a one-and-one.

It was a horrible loss and a horrible time to have a horrible loss, but they can still turn this around. They need to start by kicking the shit out of Penn State at home on Sunday.

by thunderpup12 on Jan 18, 2012 9:45 PM EST reply actions  

I'm pissed off that I was right to start the season

we’re definitely a year away and I’m mad at myself for thinking otherwise. I thought we were past some of the athleticism issues that we had on perimeter defense last year. I thought Jordan Hulls had hit enough weights that he could laterally keep a guy in front of him. I thought we had found a killer instinct that was completely absent down the stretch last year. I thought we were beyond playing down to terrible opponents. I thought a lot of things through the first half of the season and it turns out I should have trusted my gut to begin the season. Even 20 wins and a first round tourney win feel like such an optimistic view point at this current hour.

-Contributing Writer at The Crimson Quarry.

by JustAJ on Jan 18, 2012 9:59 PM EST reply actions  

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