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Indiana Hoosiers v. Minnesota Golden Gophers (game thread).

Minnesota Golden Gophers at Indiana Hoosiers, Jan 12, 2012 8:00 PM EST


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IU seeks to move to 16-1 with a home win over Minnesota. While expectations have risen to the point where this doesn't feel like a major milestone, it's worth noting that a win guarantees that IU will not have a losing record. As I said, expectations have moved far beyond eking into the NIT, but considering the uncertainties of a couple of months ago, it's worth a mention.

I should be around for this one, although I may be a little late to the party. Go IU!

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Great big gobs of greasy, grimy gopher guts. How about a nice, cool drink, varmints? Scum! Slime! Menace to the golfing industry! You’re a disgrace. You’re varmints. You’re one of the lowest members of the food chain and you’ll probably be replaced by the rat. Well, I have been pushed. It’s about time somebody teaches these varmints a little lesson about morality and about what it’s like to be a decent, upstanding member of a society! Come to Carl, varmint. — I guess we’re playing for keeps now. I guess the kidding around is pretty much over. I guess it’s just a matter of pumping about five thousand gallons of water down there to teach you a little bit of a lesson. Is that it? I think it is!

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by LoneStarHoosier on Jan 12, 2012 7:20 PM EST reply actions  

now that you said it yeah

but I definitely missed it the first go around

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by JustAJ on Jan 12, 2012 7:47 PM EST up reply actions  

[facepalm.jpeg]

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by Marked Hoosier on Jan 12, 2012 8:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Caddyshack...

"You, sir, are addressing a man, who is in fact quiet... and yet, not quiet, if I may offer to you a riddle."

by Corvus on Jan 12, 2012 7:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I think I can speak for John M and the other dads out there when I say the later the tip off the better

by thunderpup12 on Jan 12, 2012 7:53 PM EST up reply actions  

7:00 is too early for us Central Time Zone people!

by ChicagoHoosier on Jan 12, 2012 8:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh man, so many inadvertent innuendos.

“Pound it inside”
“Stroke it from deep”

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by LoneStarHoosier on Jan 12, 2012 8:02 PM EST reply actions  

to add to that

if we’re going to keep having Zeller set the high post screens to give him space for the roll, you better hit him every time he’s open.

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by JustAJ on Jan 12, 2012 8:09 PM EST up reply actions  

nice double clutch take on the baseline by Vic

dude is lethal if he gets a step on the baseline

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by JustAJ on Jan 12, 2012 8:10 PM EST reply actions  

did Minny not get a piece of that?

thought it was deflected

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by JustAJ on Jan 12, 2012 8:17 PM EST reply actions  

Zeller with a GREAT sequence

runs floor, thunder dunks, steals, assists Oladipo on a layup

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by JustAJ on Jan 12, 2012 8:18 PM EST reply actions  

Will Sheehey making an entrance

students giving him the standing O

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by JustAJ on Jan 12, 2012 8:21 PM EST reply actions  

SHEEHEY!!!!

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by LoneStarHoosier on Jan 12, 2012 8:21 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

first play

and he gets a rebound

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by JustAJ on Jan 12, 2012 8:22 PM EST up reply actions  

and then two

on the mishandle by Zeller

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by JustAJ on Jan 12, 2012 8:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Woooooo!!!

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by LoneStarHoosier on Jan 12, 2012 8:23 PM EST reply actions  

GO HOOSIERS!

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by Marked Hoosier on Jan 12, 2012 8:24 PM EST reply actions  

Fuck. Watford on the floor.

Getting up now, limping.

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by LoneStarHoosier on Jan 12, 2012 8:24 PM EST reply actions  

bet that zeller dunk/steal goes on sportscenter

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by Marked Hoosier on Jan 12, 2012 8:24 PM EST reply actions  

oh Derek

Elston really struggling offensively this year. Just trying to do too much.

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by JustAJ on Jan 12, 2012 8:28 PM EST reply actions  

I think he will be okay. he still was able to try to defend the shot. Or so I tell myself.

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by John M (The Crimson Quarry) on Jan 12, 2012 8:29 PM EST reply actions  

I didn't think it looked too bad

but I’ve seen season ending injuries on plays I didn’t think looked bad.

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by JustAJ on Jan 12, 2012 8:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Cody Zeller is a monster

shook the shit out of Sampson on that one

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by JustAJ on Jan 12, 2012 8:29 PM EST reply actions  

What I would give for some solid defensive possessions.

I want to see us pull away.

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by LoneStarHoosier on Jan 12, 2012 8:30 PM EST reply actions  

This is looking like a Verdell kind of night.

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by John M (The Crimson Quarry) on Jan 12, 2012 8:31 PM EST reply actions  

I hate the count-it-and-offensive-foul call. If you can’t finish the play without fouling, then wave it off.

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by John M (The Crimson Quarry) on Jan 12, 2012 8:32 PM EST reply actions  

how is that free throws?

that’s a player control foul

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by JustAJ on Jan 12, 2012 8:32 PM EST reply actions  

And Wat is back. Good news.

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by John M (The Crimson Quarry) on Jan 12, 2012 8:32 PM EST reply actions  

I think Crean needs to light into these guys a bit.

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by John M (The Crimson Quarry) on Jan 12, 2012 8:33 PM EST reply actions  

zero help defense

not sure what Jones was watching. As good as our help D was to start the year it has been the exact opposite since conference play started.

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by JustAJ on Jan 12, 2012 8:33 PM EST reply actions  

Highlights of his last no-look pass to the opposition.

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by John M (The Crimson Quarry) on Jan 12, 2012 8:34 PM EST up reply actions  

This defense is frustrating to watch.

Want to beat us? Pound it inside.

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by LoneStarHoosier on Jan 12, 2012 8:34 PM EST reply actions  

We are in a bit of trouble.

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by John M (The Crimson Quarry) on Jan 12, 2012 8:34 PM EST reply actions  

Minnesota shooting nearly 60%

66% on threes. IU has yet to hit a three and is only shooting 42%. That has got to change.

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by JustAJ on Jan 12, 2012 8:36 PM EST reply actions  

Is it just me

Or does it seem like sometimes Vic is the only one with his head in the game?

by ChicagoHoosier on Jan 12, 2012 8:37 PM EST reply actions  

Outhustled everywhere.

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by John M (The Crimson Quarry) on Jan 12, 2012 8:39 PM EST reply actions  

Joan Rivers should sue Meg Ryan for appropriating her likeness.

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by John M (The Crimson Quarry) on Jan 12, 2012 8:40 PM EST reply actions  

She didn't need the plastic surgery

She would have aged so nicely, I know it.

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by LoneStarHoosier on Jan 12, 2012 8:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep.

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by John M (The Crimson Quarry) on Jan 12, 2012 8:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Did Joan ever buy the rites from Zsa Zsa gabor?

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by Marked Hoosier on Jan 12, 2012 8:41 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL!

Look, everyone! It’s Joan Rivers and Tom Skerritt at an IU game!!

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Then they came for the nerds, and I did not speak out because D&D IS A RESPECTABLE GAME WITH A LARGE PLAYERBASE OK MOM???
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Then they came for me, and I did not speak out because they actually came for me back when they came for the nerds."

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by E.M.H. on Jan 12, 2012 9:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Tee-hee!

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by LoneStarHoosier on Jan 12, 2012 9:10 PM EST up reply actions  

me rikie zone

so far….

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by danorocks17 on Jan 12, 2012 8:41 PM EST reply actions  

need to get jordy warmed up

that’s a start

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by danorocks17 on Jan 12, 2012 8:43 PM EST reply actions  

That didn’t feel like an 8-0 run, but we needed it.

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by John M (The Crimson Quarry) on Jan 12, 2012 8:43 PM EST reply actions  

Amen.

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by LoneStarHoosier on Jan 12, 2012 8:44 PM EST up reply actions  

truth

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by danorocks17 on Jan 12, 2012 8:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Non shooting foul, I thought.

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by John M (The Crimson Quarry) on Jan 12, 2012 8:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep. NCAA or B1G made them stop.

You referring to the doorbell bass sound, right?

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by LoneStarHoosier on Jan 12, 2012 8:44 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah

i think they were pitch harmonics, but I don’t play bass haha

i miss that

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by danorocks17 on Jan 12, 2012 8:45 PM EST up reply actions  

I was in from 2003-2007, and I remember hearing the bass do the doorbell interval

That’s my recollection, anyway. Whoever made us stop were spoilsports.

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by LoneStarHoosier on Jan 12, 2012 8:47 PM EST up reply actions  

i was there 01-05

what a bunch of killjoys

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by danorocks17 on Jan 12, 2012 8:48 PM EST up reply actions  

oh no, sorry

I was just at IU

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by danorocks17 on Jan 12, 2012 8:52 PM EST up reply actions  

10-0, even.

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by John M (The Crimson Quarry) on Jan 12, 2012 8:45 PM EST reply actions  

Man have we missed that spark off the bench. /cliche.

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by John M (The Crimson Quarry) on Jan 12, 2012 8:46 PM EST reply actions  

I agree with Orlando. I think Zeller dragged his foot.

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by John M (The Crimson Quarry) on Jan 12, 2012 8:47 PM EST reply actions  

I love you, Gus, but that isn’t ironic.

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by John M (The Crimson Quarry) on Jan 12, 2012 8:49 PM EST reply actions  

Nice steal

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by LoneStarHoosier on Jan 12, 2012 8:51 PM EST reply actions  

I like the zone as a change of pace, but I don’t think we do it enough to stay with it against a hot shooting team.

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by John M (The Crimson Quarry) on Jan 12, 2012 8:52 PM EST reply actions  

WTF was that?

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by danorocks17 on Jan 12, 2012 8:54 PM EST reply actions  

Oshanksit.

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by John M (The Crimson Quarry) on Jan 12, 2012 8:54 PM EST reply actions  

well time to regroup at the half

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by Marked Hoosier on Jan 12, 2012 8:55 PM EST reply actions  

a lot of adjustments to be made @ the half

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by danorocks17 on Jan 12, 2012 8:55 PM EST reply actions  

Christ, that was frustrating.

I knew the Big Ten would be a tougher lineup of competition, but our regression has been ridiculous.

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by LoneStarHoosier on Jan 12, 2012 8:55 PM EST reply actions  

Beginning of the half has been a strength this year, so let’s get to it.

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by John M (The Crimson Quarry) on Jan 12, 2012 8:56 PM EST reply actions  

Hulls needed to take that pullup.

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by John M (The Crimson Quarry) on Jan 12, 2012 8:56 PM EST reply actions  

If we keep this up, we're for sure not a top-10 team.

Top-10 teams defend better than this.

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by LoneStarHoosier on Jan 12, 2012 8:59 PM EST reply actions  

Well, we really aren’t. We have earned our ranking, but we really aren’t.

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by John M (The Crimson Quarry) on Jan 12, 2012 9:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Okay, Tom, enough BK Theater. 1 and 2 have learned their lesson.

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by John M (The Crimson Quarry) on Jan 12, 2012 9:14 PM EST reply actions  

Can we just take VJIII out completely?

Dude is not having a good night.

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by LoneStarHoosier on Jan 12, 2012 9:17 PM EST reply actions  

12-34 shooting?

12-34, tell me that you love me more… C’mon, IU, start hitting some shots.

by Devin S. on Jan 12, 2012 9:22 PM EST reply actions  

come on IU!

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by Marked Hoosier on Jan 12, 2012 9:23 PM EST reply actions  

Come on, IU

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by LoneStarHoosier on Jan 12, 2012 9:24 PM EST reply actions  

SheilaDepot shooting 8-12

that means the rest of the team is shooting 4-for-22. Yeowch.

by Devin S. on Jan 12, 2012 9:24 PM EST reply actions  

4 seems high.

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by John M (The Crimson Quarry) on Jan 12, 2012 9:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I said these gophers would be dangerous

But not good. Hoosiers need to stop making these guys look good.

by Devin S. on Jan 12, 2012 9:27 PM EST reply actions  

Not much to say. We need a transformation or we will lose by 20.

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by John M (The Crimson Quarry) on Jan 12, 2012 9:27 PM EST reply actions  

Ah, to be a fly on the wall in that locker room.

Actually, no, I wouldn’t. Hope it’s pretty heated in there.

by nothsa on Jan 12, 2012 9:28 PM EST reply actions  

I still don’t know about the zone, but I guess the alternative isn’t working either.

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by John M (The Crimson Quarry) on Jan 12, 2012 9:34 PM EST reply actions  

The Carnegie Hall of college basketball.

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by John M (The Crimson Quarry) on Jan 12, 2012 9:35 PM EST reply actions  

He’s had a lot of practice this week.

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by John M (The Crimson Quarry) on Jan 12, 2012 9:37 PM EST up reply actions  

year

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by John M (The Crimson Quarry) on Jan 12, 2012 9:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Crap. I’m afraid we missed our window.

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by John M (The Crimson Quarry) on Jan 12, 2012 9:38 PM EST reply actions  

No answers on offense or defense.

Just pathetic.

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by LoneStarHoosier on Jan 12, 2012 9:42 PM EST reply actions  

I am going to beg for a 3.

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by John M (The Crimson Quarry) on Jan 12, 2012 9:50 PM EST reply actions  

I just sacrificed a chicken for a three...

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by Marked Hoosier on Jan 12, 2012 9:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Can we limit it to one OR per possession.

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by John M (The Crimson Quarry) on Jan 12, 2012 9:53 PM EST reply actions  

It's off a turnover

He can’t move on the inbounds. How the hell do the officials not catch that

by thunderpup12 on Jan 12, 2012 9:58 PM EST reply actions  

Pretty bad when Sheehey can make the call and defend the inbounds.

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by John M (The Crimson Quarry) on Jan 12, 2012 9:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Ballgame.

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by John M (The Crimson Quarry) on Jan 12, 2012 9:59 PM EST reply actions  

Yep. A road loss to PSU or, say, Nebraska would be easier to swallow than this one.

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by John M (The Crimson Quarry) on Jan 12, 2012 10:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Definately.

Good teams don’t lose to teams like this at home

by thunderpup12 on Jan 12, 2012 10:03 PM EST up reply actions  

well, this game was unpleasant.

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by Marked Hoosier on Jan 12, 2012 10:04 PM EST reply actions  

some fire at the end of this game... wow

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by Marked Hoosier on Jan 12, 2012 10:05 PM EST reply actions  

That last foul was a poor decision.

But I guess when you can’t play D you have to hope they miss free throws.

by ChicagoHoosier on Jan 12, 2012 10:10 PM EST reply actions  

Sigh.

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by LoneStarHoosier on Jan 12, 2012 10:10 PM EST up reply actions  

OMG Matt Roth.

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by Uncle Menno on Jan 12, 2012 10:11 PM EST reply actions  

....

wow.

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by Marked Hoosier on Jan 12, 2012 10:12 PM EST reply actions  

Holy moly.

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by LoneStarHoosier on Jan 12, 2012 10:12 PM EST reply actions  

awwwww....

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by Marked Hoosier on Jan 12, 2012 10:13 PM EST reply actions  

Fuck.

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by LoneStarHoosier on Jan 12, 2012 10:17 PM EST reply actions  

Oh well. A win would have been undeserved.

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by John M (The Crimson Quarry) on Jan 12, 2012 10:18 PM EST reply actions  

…but a win, nonetheless. Ah well…onward we go.

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by Corvus on Jan 12, 2012 10:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Bring on the Buckeyes.

…Fuck.

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by Uncle Menno on Jan 12, 2012 10:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Especially with what’s coming up on Sunday.

by ChicagoHoosier on Jan 12, 2012 10:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Too little too late...

On to the next game!

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by Marked Hoosier on Jan 12, 2012 10:19 PM EST reply actions  

I'm mad. No alcohol for me tonight.

No blogs for me tomorrow. Goodnight, all.

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by LoneStarHoosier on Jan 12, 2012 10:21 PM EST reply actions  

This sux

Not happy about this loss. There was at least some gumption in coming back, but you’ve got to execute in Big Ten play.

by Devin S. on Jan 12, 2012 10:24 PM EST reply actions  

Ok. Already over it.

Losses suck. No excuses for them. But IU’s still what, 15 – 2 on the season? I’m pissed, but there have been heartbreaking losses before; past Hoosier teams have survived. What’s important is that IU learns from what they did wrong: They didn’t defend with enough effort, they didn’t box out, they didn’t put enough effort into just chasing the damn ball down. They know they can be beat. And now their job is to learn from the loss. They let Minnesota beat them inside, which has got to be a blow with Zeller there. They let Minnesota outshoot them from beyond the arc, which has got to be a blow with Sheehey back and Oladipo playing great.

But it’s on them. What they did to lose this game, they can stop. It’s all on them putting in the work.

So ultimately, what’s important is that the team builds from this. They don’t have to be vulnerable. They don’t have to give up post play or rebounds. They don’t have to let the opponent out hustle them to the ball. And if Crean is worth his salt – and I think he is – he’ll make the team realize that.

I don’t even care if Minnesota sweeps IU for the regular season. I only care that IU learns enough to advance beyond them in the Big 10 and make real noise in the NCAA’s. They do that, I’ll stop caring about tonight. Tonight’s over. It’s what they do from here on out that counts.

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Then they came for the nerds, and I did not speak out because D&D IS A RESPECTABLE GAME WITH A LARGE PLAYERBASE OK MOM???
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out because let's be real they always come for the Jews.
Then they came for me, and I did not speak out because they actually came for me back when they came for the nerds."

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by E.M.H. on Jan 12, 2012 10:29 PM EST reply actions  

I would feel better if I thought this was a anomaly

But they haven’t played well since the OSU game. They’ve just shot well.

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And, see, it’s making me ignore grammar rules.

by ChicagoHoosier on Jan 12, 2012 10:32 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL.

But yeah, I’m also worried about their D. Thing is, that’s where good coaches separate themselves from run of the mill ones. I’d hope that Crean’s walking out thinking “Man, there’s a lot of stuff we gotta work on”, and then later makes the team work on them.

I’m concerned, but the challenge is there, whether we like it or not. It’s on the team to overcome.

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"First they came for the ugly, and I did not speak out because I was not ugly.
Then they came for the nerds, and I did not speak out because D&D IS A RESPECTABLE GAME WITH A LARGE PLAYERBASE OK MOM???
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out because let's be real they always come for the Jews.
Then they came for me, and I did not speak out because they actually came for me back when they came for the nerds."

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"How can a pickup truck contain enough mass to unfold into a towering machine? I say if Ringling Brothers can get 15 clowns into a Volkswagen, anything is possible."

Roger Ebert, Transformers review.

by E.M.H. on Jan 12, 2012 10:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I have been expecting a three or four game slump followed by a bounce back.

I see 3-2 over the next five and the real key to how good the season will be is the two game road swing to Mich and PU. I hope IU can get at least the split there.

by bangkokhoosier on Jan 12, 2012 10:35 PM EST up reply actions  

But that's what is most troubling, Indiana let Minnesota do whatever they want,

and by far, the ones most responsible for it were our veteran players. Jones. Watford. Hulls was non-existent. Elston was non-existent. And what’s worse, this is the latest in a trend. I’m beginning to think that we peaked too soon, and teams have figured out how to solve Cody. What a peak it was! But if we don’t figure this out soon, we’ll play our way right back out of tourney contention. Teams that play like we did tonight don’t play in March.

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by LoneStarHoosier on Jan 12, 2012 10:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes, that is indeed troubling.

But either the team views these problems as solvable and works on them, or they realize they’ve peaked and just run to stand still while everyone else improves. As a fan, I’ve got no choice but to hope, because to do otherwise is to condemn the team to staying static and playing their way to a disappointing record.

These kids are still growing, still developing their skills. You can’t conclude that a bunch of 19 & 20 year olds have stopped developing both physically and (more importantly) mentally on the basis of this loss, or even troubling characteristics and tendencies causing this loss. I realize that it’s possible for them to have peaked early, but while they’re in the middle of the season, there’s no reason to actually believe that it’s happened yet. It’s all on those kids to practice and work their way out of this funk. They’ll see on video what they have to work on, so they need to work on those things. If they don’t, well… we overrated them. But that’s not determined unless they actually fail to improve.

There’s no reason to put a cap on their season yet. There’s only things to improve. If they look at things that way, they’ll realize they can overcome this and get better. And until I see a failure to improve, I’m not going to be cynical about things. Five games into the Big Ten season is not enough time to have determined that.

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"First they came for the ugly, and I did not speak out because I was not ugly.
Then they came for the nerds, and I did not speak out because D&D IS A RESPECTABLE GAME WITH A LARGE PLAYERBASE OK MOM???
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out because let's be real they always come for the Jews.
Then they came for me, and I did not speak out because they actually came for me back when they came for the nerds."

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"How can a pickup truck contain enough mass to unfold into a towering machine? I say if Ringling Brothers can get 15 clowns into a Volkswagen, anything is possible."

Roger Ebert, Transformers review.

by E.M.H. on Jan 12, 2012 10:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I certainly hope they do improve.

But barring miraculous practices, I don’t think we have an answer in the low post other than meteoric Cody development over the coming weeks, or Watford transitioning to the paint full-time. Barring those miracles or a new defensive scheme, every Big Ten team now has the perfect blueprint for beating us: drive the lane and hit threes.

I truly hope we find an answer, but it will be a very tall order indeed.

A sassy, brassy, classy lassy.

by LoneStarHoosier on Jan 12, 2012 11:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh, it won't be easy. That's for sure.

But again, those kids don’t play Division I basketball in a major conference for “easy”. All I can do is hope they rise to the challenge. So far, they have done better than expected, so it’s not like it’s a faint hope. Just a difficult task.

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"First they came for the ugly, and I did not speak out because I was not ugly.
Then they came for the nerds, and I did not speak out because D&D IS A RESPECTABLE GAME WITH A LARGE PLAYERBASE OK MOM???
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out because let's be real they always come for the Jews.
Then they came for me, and I did not speak out because they actually came for me back when they came for the nerds."

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"How can a pickup truck contain enough mass to unfold into a towering machine? I say if Ringling Brothers can get 15 clowns into a Volkswagen, anything is possible."

Roger Ebert, Transformers review.

by E.M.H. on Jan 12, 2012 11:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Did not see the game and am wondering...

…with the bad three-point shooting why Roth did not see more playing time? Is his D that bad?

by bangkokhoosier on Jan 12, 2012 10:40 PM EST reply actions  

god damned embarrassing

of all the basketball games I have watched this year that has got to be the worst. Both teams were atrocious, the decision making was embarrassing and the amount of shooting oneself in the foot was near comical. Seriously having my first doubts about this team now. Poor shooting doesn’t excuse this loss.

-Contributing Writer at The Crimson Quarry.

by JustAJ on Jan 12, 2012 10:40 PM EST reply actions  

Live by the 3, die by the 3.

Oh well. I still love this team. Horrible, horrible loss. But if somehow we rebound against OSU (admittedly a longshot) we’ll keep our rank. Ulgh. Just a bad night all around. At least tomorrow is Friday. That makes it ok, right? No? Fuck.

"It's an easy game, man. Easy game."
~Edgerrin James

by 87 Rides A Surfboard on Jan 12, 2012 10:53 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah. I choose to be optimistic.

As an illustration: If there are any archives from Phil B’s blog in 2006, anyone and everyone could see that I wrote that year off by midseason. With that defense, I was afraid the Colts were one-and-done in the playoffs at best. But we all now know what happened. And I learned a lesson about execution vs. characteristics. Indy’s characteristics indicated playoff problems, but they executed above themselves.

Granted, those were pros in a completely different sport. But there’s enough similarity in the situation to make me choose to be optimistic. What IU has been doing bad lately is correctable. Whether they correct it or not depends on whether the players listen to Crean or not. If they do, and if they tighten their defense and start going after the ball better, they’ll improve. But if they keep going away from Zeller, keep being passive on defense, and keep letting opponents dictate and control, they’ll lose. Like I said above, it’s a tall order, but the positive is that it’s all on them. Some good, hard work, and they’ve got a real chance to improve. They just have to do it. Huge task, sure, and not easy at all. But doable.

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"First they came for the ugly, and I did not speak out because I was not ugly.
Then they came for the nerds, and I did not speak out because D&D IS A RESPECTABLE GAME WITH A LARGE PLAYERBASE OK MOM???
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out because let's be real they always come for the Jews.
Then they came for me, and I did not speak out because they actually came for me back when they came for the nerds."

--
"How can a pickup truck contain enough mass to unfold into a towering machine? I say if Ringling Brothers can get 15 clowns into a Volkswagen, anything is possible."

Roger Ebert, Transformers review.

by E.M.H. on Jan 12, 2012 11:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Indeed.

I’ve felt all along that we aren’t deep enough at the 4 and 5 to be a championship team, but once we started being lethal from behind the arc I started to feel that 2001-2002 season magic. Then tonight it all came crashing down. It IS just one game, however. Plenty of regular season left. Then even after the reg season we have a chance to make our mark. Tonight was just frustrating is all. All my fears saw the light of day. I vote we start being awesome again starting Sunday. Let’s be giant killers once more.

"It's an easy game, man. Easy game."
~Edgerrin James

by 87 Rides A Surfboard on Jan 12, 2012 11:33 PM EST up reply actions  

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