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Purdue Boilermakers 67, Indiana Hoosiers 53: Boiler defense stifles Hoosiers.

IU managed to stick around most of the night, but never seriously threatened Purdue and the Boilermakers eventually put the game away and won 67-54.

Caveat: for the first time in at least 20 years, I didn't get the chance to watch an IU-Purdue game live (either in person or on TV).  Professional commitments made it impossible.  I've seen the highlights, but I haven't watched the game at all.  So my observations are purely box score based, and I appreciate any additional insight in the comments about how the game looked. 

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  • This wasn't a highly productive offensive game for either team, but IU's offense was particularly ineffective, posting a season worst .79 points per possession.  IU shot 35 percent from the field.  The turnover and offensive rebounding numbers were decent, but IU shot only 7 free throws (although free throw shooting continues to be a strength--IU was 7-7).  I'm sure Purdue's defense was stifling, as usual. 
  • My hope for the game was that Jeremiah Rivers would be able to stifle E'Twaun Moore, and obviously that didn't happen.  Moore had a great game.  I don't know how long Rivers guarded him, but I saw JR get toasted in the highlights on one drive to the basket. 
  • Not much in the way of strong offensive performances.  Every IU player who shot the ball with any frequency was well under 50 percent.
  • What happened with Jordan Hulls and Kelsey Barlow?   Sounds like some minor altercation about who was going to give the ball to the official or something?  When asked about it, Barlow said: "Some people just aren't mentally tough and can't take it," Barlow said. "I just told him to give me the ball so I could give it to the ref and he thought he was hard. I was like, I've never met a little kid that thought he was that hard, but I'm not going to say anything to him, so whatever."   We will see how tough Kelsey is when he actually has to shoulder some of the load instead of talking trash while Purdue's good players do the dirty work.

Well, I suppose the game went about as most IU fans expected.  As I outlined yesterday, Mackey has been a tough out for even the best IU teams against weak Purdue teams.  The 1981 NCAA champions and the 1992 Final Four team both lost at Mackey to Purdue teams that didn't make it to the NCAA Tournament.  It's a tough place for everyone, but it has been particularly so for IU even when the program has been at its strongest.  Unfortunately, the missed opportunities against Iowa and Michigan State have crippled IU's postseason hopes. Without having seen it, at least on paper it seems that the team wasn't intimidated by what always is an ugly atmosphere and didn't allow the game to get out of hand.  I'll never accept a moral victory against Purdue, but this outcome probably isn't much different than what an NCAA-bound IU team would have faced up there.  On to Michigan. 

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Seriously???

You run THE IU blog and you haven’t even taken the time to actually view what is typically the greatest rivalry game of their season? I’m embarrassed for you.

by boilerk on Feb 9, 2011 10:50 AM EST reply actions  

unlike the regular college kid that roams these blogs

John has young children and a job. Not his fault that most Purdue alums spend a lot of time in the unemployment line.

"Power does not corrupt men; fools, however, if they get into a position of power, corrupt power."
- George Bernard Shaw

by JustAJ on Feb 9, 2011 10:52 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Hehehe, Unemployment Line?

Let’s get as personal as we can, yeah? Makes you guys look really good.

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by JordanLegend on Feb 10, 2011 10:24 AM EST up reply actions  

its just a joke man

counter-trolling. I don’t me it. I love you guys.

"Power does not corrupt men; fools, however, if they get into a position of power, corrupt power."
- George Bernard Shaw

by JustAJ on Feb 10, 2011 1:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I ruv 2 tew

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by JordanLegend on Feb 10, 2011 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I missed the u key. Epic.

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by JordanLegend on Feb 10, 2011 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

just thought you enjoyed the ballet

"Power does not corrupt men; fools, however, if they get into a position of power, corrupt power."
- George Bernard Shaw

by JustAJ on Feb 10, 2011 6:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I'll give him a break

John has a lot on his plate.

As for Barlow, he is not carrying a heavy scoring load, but defensively he is doing a ton. I would say he is doing more of the dirty, behind the scenes work (defense, rebounding, ball-handling) than a lot of people realize. Besides, it was Hulls that threw a high elbow at him to start it. Barlow walked away.

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by BoilerTMill on Feb 9, 2011 10:53 AM EST up reply actions  

This isn’t my day job, believe it or not. If I told you about the uber-responsible task I was performing last night, it would be even more embarrassing that I get dragged into so many juvenile IU-Purdue pissing matches on the Internet. Suffice it to say that I was involved with work-related tasks from 8 am until 11 pm yesterday and I am back at the office today. The game is sitting on my DVR, and I’ll probably watch it at some point. But sorry, I have other responsibilities. As I said, it’s the first time in around 20 years that I haven’t been watching one of these either in person or on live TV.

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by John M (The Crimson Quarry) on Feb 9, 2011 10:58 AM EST up reply actions  

You don't have to justify yourself to anyone.

Some people don’t realize there is life outside of the internet.

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by Ditkavsworld on Feb 9, 2011 11:34 AM EST up reply actions  

One game missed in 20 years

is extremely applaudable, and I hope I can maintain a similar record. Fingers crossed that life doesn’t get in the way.

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by JordanLegend on Feb 10, 2011 10:23 AM EST up reply actions  

That’s one IU-Purdue game missed. As I noted elsewhere, I often DVR games that begin before my kids’ bedtime, but I have sat through some shit sandwiches over last three years, so there is no lack of commitment.

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by John M (The Crimson Quarry) on Feb 10, 2011 10:34 AM EST up reply actions  

That's what I was implying.

And it’s still impressive. 20 years of finding time for the games is a pretty big deal. Considering my job options for the next couple years I might not have ANY basketball to watch for a while. I’ll be a star in Japan, though.

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by JordanLegend on Feb 10, 2011 10:36 AM EST up reply actions  

If you’d like to go troll on other blogs, be my guest. This isn’t the one for up-to-the-second news. John does a great job with commentary and conversation. There are other places to go for the earlier type of blog. Get a life.

by jordanchunt on Feb 9, 2011 11:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Barlow/Hulls

Barlow forced a turnover by knocking the ball off of Hulls and out of bounds as Hulls was dribbling off the court.

Barlow reached for the ball and Hulls threw an elbow. From what they showed on TV, that was the extent of it. No idea if there was more, because after they replayed it, a ref was talking to Hulls, but we didn’t see anything else.

by AustinP0027 on Feb 9, 2011 10:54 AM EST reply actions  

The Eye Test

IU was iffy last night. If they played a stronger game last night it would have come down to the wire.

Both teams shooting were pretty sub-par. I’d imagine it has something to do with those rims. They were damn unforgiving. Every ball that hit the rim didn’t have a chance of falling unless you were E’Twaun “3 bounce” Moore. I’d imagine Purdue would look better on the road shooting from perimeter than they do at home if the rims are always that tough to shoot on.

Purdue’s perimeter defense was pretty solid. I wasn’t sold on IU’s weave and drive play. Dakich kept saying that the best way to beat Purdue is to play north and south not east and west. We did too much east and west before trying to attack the basket with 10 seconds left on the clock. That being said it did limit the possessions which IU needed to do, so I guess you gotta take the good with the bad.

Fouls and FTs. Gotta balance that back out.

Elston and Pritchard both did a fantastic job on the boards and defensively considering the odds of their success being so low. They get props for a good night.

Will Sheehey also gets props. He’s currently the better of the two freshmen. More controlled and basketball savvy to go with that athleticism. VO has a bad tendency to make some pretty boneheaded mistakes when he gets to emotionally high. When Sheehey gets pumped its usually a good thing. Not with VO, he stops thinking.

The Hulls/Barlow incident was a blimp. Hulls had the ball, Barlow reached for it Hulls shrugged him off. Would you call it an elbow? I guess, but it wasn’t anything malicious. Basketball emotions were running high last night, wouldn’t be upset if the situation was swapped. It’s a rivalry for a reason.

"Power does not corrupt men; fools, however, if they get into a position of power, corrupt power."
- George Bernard Shaw

by JustAJ on Feb 9, 2011 11:03 AM EST reply actions  

elbow

I’d call it an elbow, but I agree that it wasn’t anything big.

I’d say I have no idea why it came up in the press conference , but Barlow didn’t do anything stupid in the game, so he had to make up for that afterwords. He has a quota to meet apparently.

by AustinP0027 on Feb 9, 2011 11:10 AM EST up reply actions  

bone headed for sure

nothing like slapping a giant bullseye on your back for a trip to Bloomington in two weeks. Also that “little kid” would eat Barlow’s lunch on the court. But that’s just like my opinion, man.

"Power does not corrupt men; fools, however, if they get into a position of power, corrupt power."
- George Bernard Shaw

by JustAJ on Feb 9, 2011 11:14 AM EST up reply actions  

comparng those two basketball skills wise is an apples to oranges comparison

hulls is much more offensive minded while barlow’s main purpose is to d down and get athletic rebounds (with the occasional “holy shit” thunder dunk)

it’s be like comparing tom coverdale to chris kramer, both were great at their respective niches but saying who is better is a futile exercise because of their opposing goals on the court

my mother was right....no one cares what i have to say

by glassjawsh on Feb 10, 2011 1:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Depends how we're comparing

Barlow is a great defender. His offense is soft. If it’s a numbers thing, yea, probably. But if it’s “one on one” thing, I actually would favor Barlow, just because neither one of them would be making many shots.

But yes, giant bulls-eye. Like IU needed anything else to get it riled up for it’s home game, here, let’s give away a free motivational quote to make it even more person. We call him GDB (God Damn Barlow) at H&R because he always seems to do something that makes you just want to slap him at some point.

by AustinP0027 on Feb 9, 2011 11:30 AM EST reply actions  

apparently

I suck at actually replying to the post correctly.

That was a response to AJ above.

by AustinP0027 on Feb 9, 2011 11:30 AM EST up reply actions  

as a Colts fan I know the feeling

Damnit Donald is our go to scapegoat anymore.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_k5nIpmSzg

"Power does not corrupt men; fools, however, if they get into a position of power, corrupt power."
- George Bernard Shaw

by JustAJ on Feb 9, 2011 11:34 AM EST up reply actions  

I just laughed my ASS off.

Thanks for sharing.

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by JordanLegend on Feb 10, 2011 10:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Barlow is definitely soft on the offensive side of the ball.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycDSLYHJHwo

Heh. If Hulls was to have a chance against Barlow it’d have to be with his speed and shooting ability, but Kelsey is (finally) getting better at having a player in front of him and keeping it that way without fouling.

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by JordanLegend on Feb 10, 2011 10:28 AM EST up reply actions  

The game played out close to how I expected.

Moore seemed like he could take it to the rim any time he felt like it. Our defense was about as good as I expected and almost as good as I hoped for. If we were able to hit more of our open looks that caliber of defense could have been good enough to win us the game.

I think Crean had a good gameplan. Have to limit the possesions when going against Purdue and we really did get quite a few good looks. Just wasn’t able to knock them down. I liked Sheehey and Victor getting a lot of minutes. Sheehey is just fun to watch and Victor needs playing time to develop. He’s one of our most athletic players and is going to have a breakout game one of these days.

I’m optimistic about playing Purdue at home. We’ll shoot the ball better and have the benefit of one of the loudest crowds in the Big Ten. At the very least we’ll take it down to the wire.

"It's an easy game, man. Easy game."
~Edgerrin James

by 87 Rides A Surfboard on Feb 9, 2011 11:33 AM EST reply actions  

What happened with Jordan Hulls and Kelsey Barlow?

The ref signaled it was Purdue ball, but Hulls started to walk away with the ball. Kelsey tried to grab it from him and Hulls threw a little tantrum.

Ever Grateful. Ever True.

by PurdueMatt on Feb 9, 2011 1:47 PM EST reply actions  

Kelsey tried to grab it from him

Maybe next time he should ask for the ball politely or let the ref do his job….

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by Ditkavsworld on Feb 9, 2011 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

tantrum?

he flung Barlow’s arm off the ball took two steps and dropped the ball. Hardly a tantrum. He was stalling to let the defense get set. And given Barlow’s post game comments I’d imagine that he’s not the most upstanding citizen and more action was probably warranted.

"Power does not corrupt men; fools, however, if they get into a position of power, corrupt power."
- George Bernard Shaw

by JustAJ on Feb 9, 2011 4:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Little Jordy was upset

He wanted to take this ball and go home.

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by PurdueMatt on Feb 9, 2011 5:26 PM EST up reply actions  

???

Why are there so many Purdue people on this website? I’m guessing there’s at least two or three Purdue websites where you could go stroke yourselves over your outstanding basketball team. The day I am caught on a Purdue/Kentucky/Illinois blog is the day I check myself into rehab.

GET TO THE CHOPPA!!!

by hoosier3 on Feb 9, 2011 6:47 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

the world revolves around IU ball

and they’re hear to prove that to us. :-)

It’s little brother syndrome.

"Power does not corrupt men; fools, however, if they get into a position of power, corrupt power."
- George Bernard Shaw

by JustAJ on Feb 9, 2011 7:57 PM EST up reply actions  

far be it for purdue fans to comment on a thread about the purdue-IU game

the nerve of those douche bags

my mother was right....no one cares what i have to say

by glassjawsh on Feb 10, 2011 1:19 AM EST up reply actions  

not to comment but to troll

there is a difference. I love that there was some good back and forth discussion Purdue Matt is trolling. Big difference.

"Power does not corrupt men; fools, however, if they get into a position of power, corrupt power."
- George Bernard Shaw

by JustAJ on Feb 10, 2011 8:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Purdue Matt is alright. He’s one of the more reality-based Purdue posters, although I disagree with him in this case.

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by John M (The Crimson Quarry) on Feb 10, 2011 9:03 AM EST up reply actions  

ty

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by PurdueMatt on Feb 10, 2011 11:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Response

Matt was only responding to a bait for him to troll. Tsk tsk.

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by JordanLegend on Feb 10, 2011 10:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Because surely we never see any IU "people" on Purdue sites. Give me a break.

The social media aspect of SBN and the ability to interact with other teams’ fans is one its unique strengths.

by rcpratt on Feb 10, 2011 11:02 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Always like to visit the SB Nation blog for Purdue’s opponents to see what the chatter is about. IU is no different from any other.

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by PurdueMatt on Feb 10, 2011 11:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Heaven forbid he be into the game. I forgot that he was supposed to treat Barlow (who the IU players probably aren’t fond of anyways) like his best friend. This is a competition and these are rivals. It isn’t Hulls’ responsibility to give the ball to Barlow. It’s his responsibility to give the ball to the referee. Of course, if he was wearing those gold jerseys that visually assaulted my eyes, Purdue fans would call him “tough” and “tenacious.” I’m sure your deity Chris Kramer was always a perfect gentleman on the court.

by jordanchunt on Feb 9, 2011 11:41 PM EST up reply actions  

We will see how tough Kelsey is when he actually has to shoulder some of the load

Barlow had eight rebounds, four assists and three steals.

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by PurdueMatt on Feb 9, 2011 1:50 PM EST reply actions  

He’s a nice contributor, but he isn’t the focal point for opposing teams right now the way Johnson and Moore are for Purdue or the way Hulls is for IU. He seems to have a lot of swagger for a role player. I always thought it was telling that his “choke” symbol concerning Verdell Jones III was made from the bench. He’s never been on a college team where he was expected to take big shots.

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by John M (The Crimson Quarry) on Feb 10, 2011 9:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Role Playing

That’s what Purdue’s team is about.. role playing. Kelsey Barlow doesn’t take big shots because that’s only one aspect of the game, and not the one he’s focused on. Every guy on the court is specialized in what they’re to do – just listen to the way Painter talks about each player: http://media.1070thefan.com/Podcasts/1161/020911_MattPainter.mp3

Just because Barlow doesn’t take the game-winner (we have 2-3 other guys for that, more than most teams these days anyways) doesn’t mean he’s not a good basketball player or a GREAT role player.

Is he immature? Sure. Does he frustrate Purdue fans (the same ones you suggest think the team is infallible)? DEFINITELY. But he’s grown up a lot since that game in Bloomington a year ago.

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by JordanLegend on Feb 10, 2011 10:33 AM EST up reply actions  

It’s what all basketball teams are about. Painter is a fine coach, but he didn’t invent basketball. What ever you think of Crean, stop lecturing IU fans, as if we didn’t spend our formative years watching one of the greatest of all time.

Role players have a…role, of course. But again, I think it’s pretty lame of him to bag on guys like Jones and Hulls, guys who have to be “the man” whether they are ready for it or not, when he has the luxury of letting others handle those big moments. Defense and rebounding are important, of course, but nothing quite matches the pressure of having the ball in one’s hand with the game on the line and being expected to do something about it.

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by John M (The Crimson Quarry) on Feb 10, 2011 10:39 AM EST up reply actions  

I try not to lecture, I simply only respond to your argument with the best ammunition I have available. Crean ran a fantastic half-court, down-low defense on JJ, and if he can get those kids to do it in Bloomington, we’ll have a much tougher time pulling out a W – especially if the stadium is actually half-full before the 12:00 media time out, unlike last year.

As I said, he’s an immature kid that gets caught up and would probably rather be playing street ball.

And you just exhibited the difference between IU fans and Purdue fans. There’s pressure on the other end of the floor for the guys who have to defend those last-second shooters and keep them from winning the game for their club (Purdue: Defense Lives Here). Then again, Barlow has a tendency to look lackadaisical pretty much all the time, I’m not sure the guy knows what pressure feels like at all.

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by JordanLegend on Feb 10, 2011 10:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh, nonsense. I never said that there isn’t pressure for players on the defensive end. I said that nothing else in basketball matches the pressure of being the guy who has to take the final shot, and I stand by that. On defense, there is help or at least the hope that the guy will miss on his own volition. On the other end, even if the offense helped create the opening, it’s all on the shooter.

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by John M (The Crimson Quarry) on Feb 10, 2011 11:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Alright, I'll give you that.

I just don’t think the difference is that big.

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by JordanLegend on Feb 10, 2011 4:39 PM EST up reply actions  

LULZ

glad you’re more concerned about the state of IU than the state of your team.

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- George Bernard Shaw

by JustAJ on Feb 10, 2011 10:43 PM EST up reply actions  

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by Chopaholic on Feb 11, 2011 3:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Your FACE sucks! Oooooooooooooo.

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by 87 Rides A Surfboard on Feb 11, 2011 8:44 AM EST up reply actions  

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by Ditkavsworld on Feb 11, 2011 10:21 AM EST up reply actions  

funny part is with those two comments

he’s made more comments in the last few months here than on H&R.

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by JustAJ on Feb 11, 2011 11:04 AM EST up reply actions  

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