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Indiana 86, NC State 75: Hoosiers rally for major road win.

In what may have been the last major tossup game of the non-conference schedule, IU overcame a 7-point second half deficit to gut out an excellent road win against NC State in Raleigh. This was, above all, a very entertaining game marked by scoring runs by each team. The Hoosiers exploded out of the gate, leading 25-14 with 14:00 left in the first half. NC State slowly whittled that lead away, and took its first lead at the buzzer on a CJ Leslie tip-in. IU hung with the Wolfpack throughout the second half, when NC State suddenly found itself with a 7 point lead with 7:48 to go. I'll admit that I thought IU was toast at that point, but IU then finished the game the way it started, going on a 30-12 run to finish things.

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One of the key moments of the late IU run is a call that certainly agitated the NC State crowd and probably will be discussed for a while, and that was the "flagrant 1" foul called on NC State's Scott Wood with about three minutes later. It was interesting that ESPN's Mike Patrick and Len Elmore seemed completely unaware of the NCAA's switch to the flagrant 1/flagrant 2. The flagrant 1 is simply the same as the old "intentional foul." Further, they seem to be calling it a bit tighter this year, although I can't find any official "emphasis" documentation. Regardless, this was a huge swing, Oladipo hit one of his free throws, and the Jordan Hulls hit two more to give IU a six point lead. After the point at which NC State led by 7, IU shot 7-9 from the field and 14-16 from the line, and that was that. Here's the box score. For the game, IU was 19-23 from the line, just a shade under 50 percent from the line, and 7-13 from deep. Rebounding continues to be a concern. IU allowed NC State as 42 percent OR percentage while rebounding 37 percent of its own OR opportunities. As with everything else, IU excelled in the final seven minutes, grabbing 8 of 9 DR opportunities and 2 of 4 OR opportunities. That means the rebounding stats were even more in NC State's favor for most of the game. On turnovers, IU was pretty solid on offense, turning the ball over 17 percent of the time (13 in a 73 possession game), and while NC State's percentage of 20.5 is IU's lowest defensive turnover percentage of the season, we still have been in the black on turnovers in every game so far.

Individual performances of note:

  • This was the first game in which IU truly leaned on Cody Zeller, and he responded well. Zeller scored 19 on 8-14 from the field (including 5-10 from the field). This was by far the roughest game he has seen down low, and I thought the officials swallowed their whistles a bit. Regardless, he was very solid, and his breakaway dunk and a couple of the post moves he made were jaw-droppingly skillful for a player his size.
  • Jordan Hulls had a game-high 20 points on 6-9 from the field, including 3-4 from deep and 5-5 from the line. Hulls is still perfect for the season from the line, and is starting to do a better job drawing fouls.
  • After some criticism, Christian Watford had an excellent game, scoring 16 on 4-9 from the field, 3-5 from deep, and 5-6 from the line. Obviously, the current hole in his game is interior scoring--he was only 1-4 from two point range--but Watford is playing much harder and more effectively on defense and on the boards. He led IU with 9 rebounds.
  • Although he played only 8 minutes, Remy Abell made a nice showing. The freshman scored 5 points and had a steal and a rebound as well. That was nice to see.

Well, I'm giddy. It's December, IU is undefeated, we have two road wins, and our closest margin of victory has been 11 points. The Hoosiers have taken care of business against the lower tier teams on the schedule, avoided a trap game at Evansville, manhandled Butler, and won on the road against an NC State team that seems pretty solid both on paper and by the eyeball test. If IU can beat Stetson this weekend, then the Hoosiers will be undefeated when they host top-ranked Kentucky on December 10. We had some discussion in the game thread last night about whether this is a "resume game" for the NCAA Tournament selection committee. It's obviously premature for a program that has won only 8 conference games in the past three seasons to start talking Tournament, but I think this will be an important win. First, it's one of only two road games on the non-con schedule, so by default it is one of our more important games on the schedule. If NC State has a good season, all the better. Even after last night's loss, Pomeroy still projects the Wolfpack as a 18-13, 8-8 team. If they live up to that, then this will be a solid win. More importantly, if IU can handle middle-of-the-pack teams on the road with regularity, then we aren't going to be as worried about such "resume games."

But I'm getting ahead of myself. There is a long way to go, and the Big Ten is going to be tough again. Ohio State and Wisconsin are by far the top two, and it's really tough to distinguish among Purdue, Michigan, Michigan State, IU, and Illinois. There's been a lot of talk (particularly from Purdue fans) about Crean's Big Ten road record, but I think that is a red herring. The most important thing for IU is to take care of business at home, beating all of the lower and middle tier teams at home and not going winless at home against the top teams. Still, I like what I have seen from IU on the road. In the games at Evansville and NC State, the Hoosiers were utterly fearless from the opening tip and built significant leads in both games. Against NC State, obviously, that went away, but IU responded with its best closing stretch of the Crean era. This was the first time since 2008 that IU had won a game it trailed at halftime or that it trailed at the final media timeout. We're not there yet, but this is significant progress. Congrats to Coach Crean and the team, and thanks, guys. This is fun again.

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Fun, indeed

To say that the referees swallowed their whistles is an understatement. Had we lost, it would have been because we did not rebound, and not because of the officiating. Still, it was bad.

But we did not lose. That was just freaking awesome. For the past few years, we have seemed like the Washington Generals: a team whose purpose on the court is to serve as a prop for the other team. All season, and particularly last night, we seemed to be able to dictate the flow, pace and tone of the game. Rather than just running a weave at the top of the key and hoping some ill-advised shot would go in, we have an offense that you have to react to on defense. I’m a little concerned about our defense. We have a disruptive defense, which is a great thing if you are playing a team that does not take care of the ball well. But if we don’t turn people over, I don’t think we are very sound in terms of staying in front of people.
But I quibble. That was just great to watch and enjoy, particularly Vic’s emphasis dunk at the end. Actually, favorite part: Hulls’s three near the end. ONIONS!

by hoosierdaddynow on Dec 1, 2011 10:17 AM EST reply actions  

ONIONS shown by the whole team ...

or at least the five on the floor for the final 7+ minutes. The best thing to take away from last night’s game is that the team finished the game on a 30-12 run, including the final 10 points. Despite being the fourth year of a rebuilding process, this is still a young team. I was curious how the team would respond when faced with adversity, and they obviously passed that test.

by thunderpup12 on Dec 1, 2011 10:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Agreed, and to elaborate on that, let’s not even limit it to the Crean era…when in the last 17 or 18 years has IU finished a game like that on the road against a team with a pulse? I recall a really nice comeback at Michigan in 1997. We were down 20 in the second half and won in overtime. There may be others that I am forgetting. Maybe Illinois in 2008, if we consider that Illini team to have a pulse (they didn’t have a soul, of course). Really, though, something that started in the late Knight era and has continued since then was a complete inability to beat upper half or even most middling Big Ten teams on the road.

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by John M (The Crimson Quarry) on Dec 1, 2011 10:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Speaking of Onions

Do you think we’ll get Coach Raftery for the Kentucky game? I’d love a helping of Uncle Verne and the Coach.

by hoosierdaddynow on Dec 1, 2011 10:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Kentucky game is on ESPN, not CBS. That’s fairly unusual, but not unprecedented. I’m guessing it’s the last time for a while that will be the case.

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by John M (The Crimson Quarry) on Dec 1, 2011 10:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Vuck Fitale.

"It's an easy game, man. Easy game."
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by 87 Rides A Surfboard on Dec 1, 2011 10:55 AM EST up reply actions  

What I'd love to happen...

(and I know it won’t ever happen) is that IU postpones the 1987 team reunion until the Kentucky game and gets Coach Knight to be the commentator in his first time coming back to IU.

by cubs3290 on Dec 1, 2011 1:34 PM EST up reply actions  

For some reason, I have yet to listen to Fisher and Waltman this year. That will change whenever Dickie V is calling the game. The split-second difference in the radio broadcast vs. the tv signal is far less annoying than that asshole.

by thunderpup12 on Dec 1, 2011 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Dangerous drinking games, Vitale Edition:

Drink whenever ol’ Dick campaigns for IU to rename Assembly Hall to Robert Montgomery Knight Arena. Succumb to alcohol poisoning by the under-8 timeout in the first half.

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by LoneStarHoosier on Dec 1, 2011 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

For years, he demanded Knight’s name on the court, until someone shut him up for long enough to tell him it is already named for Branch McCracken. I would love to see Knight’s name on the Hall, but Vitale needs some new material.

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by John M (The Crimson Quarry) on Dec 1, 2011 2:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I think we should name the coach's folding chair after Knight.

A more fitting tribute I can’t imagine.

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by LoneStarHoosier on Dec 1, 2011 2:17 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Jordan Hulls is a bad, bad man.

It hasn’t been talked about much, but that dribble-drive move midway through the second half that Jordan finished with a sweet 6-foot jumper was more impressive to me than the 3 pointer near the end. Shows he can absolutely create his own shot if need be. In short, it seems I never stop being impressed with Jordy. He’s a guy that I want on the floor as often as possible.

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by 87 Rides A Surfboard on Dec 1, 2011 10:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Wish I could watch these games. sigh

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by Bronn on May 17, 2011 4:56 PM EDT

by Sparhawk on Dec 1, 2011 11:14 AM EST reply actions  

You don't have ESPN or B1G Network?

Are you outside of The Footprint?

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by LoneStarHoosier on Dec 1, 2011 12:51 PM EST up reply actions  

ESPN showed this game? I just figured it was on a local channel. I live in Atlanta. I don’t get too many IU games.

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by Bronn on May 17, 2011 4:56 PM EDT

by Sparhawk on Dec 1, 2011 4:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Big Ten Nertwork.

I live in Alpharetta. B1G Network is showing almost all of the IU games this season.

by Gamesetmax on Dec 1, 2011 5:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Not as many as in the past, but there are a good number of games available for those without BTN: Kentucky, ND, @ MSU, OSU, @OSU, @ Wisconsin, and MSU are all on ESPN, ESPN2, or CBS.

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by John M (The Crimson Quarry) on Dec 1, 2011 6:02 PM EST up reply actions  

it feels like it used to be every other game on some national broadcast

and then Purdue vs. Xavier is relegated to ESPNU this Saturday. LULZ

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by JustAJ on Dec 2, 2011 9:42 AM EST up reply actions  

And IU is going to be taking Purdue’s usual spot on BTN.com. I think Don and Royce will be talking me through the Stetson game. Not paying $15 for that one.

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by John M (The Crimson Quarry) on Dec 2, 2011 10:01 AM EST up reply actions  

well if they put IU and Stetson on larger network over Purdue and Xavier

West Lafayette should be rioting in the streets

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by JustAJ on Dec 2, 2011 10:10 AM EST up reply actions  

I just wanted to congratulate you guys

on the win in what was a pretty entertaining game.

I think a little too big of a deal is being made about the flagrant-1 foul call. As soon as I saw the foul in real time I figured it had a 50/50 shot of getting called, so I can’t cry about it. Wood has a cringe-worthy history of bad fouls (either way too weak or obviously intentional) against guys on fast breaks. Overall, I thought the officials made bad calls for both sides and it pretty much was a nonfactor in the end.

Zellar was really impressive, and I think will end up better than his brother, especially if he avoids the injuries that have plagued Tyler. Hull played lights out as well, and I was cursing whenever the man guarding him went under on a screen.

I look for NC State to improve through the season as the guys get used to the new system and actually having a real coach.

by PACKHOOLIGAN on Dec 1, 2011 1:58 PM EST reply actions  

Thank you. In turn, I have to say that I thought the Pack played quite well.

They were definitely the test for IU so far this season. I was actually a little intimidated by 1. How the top players were able to create their shots so well, and 2. Just how quickly they flowed to the ball in loose ball and rebound situations.

Plus, that athleticism… Ok, true, it’s not the 90’s UK Wildcats under Pitino; I won’t exaggerate things. But at the same time, it was still something for an IU fan to worry about. I was impressed by it.

Your team will go places. It’s got the chops. And you’re right: Once they get into the groove of your coach’s system, they’ll be a team to watch, that’s for sure.

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by E.M.H. on Dec 1, 2011 3:07 PM EST up reply actions  

The thing about that Flagrant-1 call

and that the announcers didn’t understand, is that the new “flagrant-1” is just the old “intentional” foul. And that foul was clearly intentional. So the feigned outrage by the Elmore and whass-his-name just showed that they didn’t understand the rule change, which is inexcusable if you’re a college basketball announcer.

Now, what bugs me is that the “intentional” foul is not consistently called, and never has been. If you called a flagrant-1 every time there was an intentional foul, then every basketball team ever would get like five of those per game at the end of the game as they foul to try and eke out a win.

But congrats to NC State. They’re a good team, and obviously well-coached.

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by Uncle Menno on Dec 2, 2011 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

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