Indiana Hoosiers v. Purdue Boilermakers: IU seeks to defend Old Oaken Bucket (preview).
2011 record: 5-6 (3-4 Big Ten)
2010 record: 4-8 (2-6 Big Ten)
2011 Sagarin: 71 (IU is #143)
2010 Sagarin: 96 (IU was #98)
Coach: Danny Hope (third year, 14-21)
Series: Purdue leads 70-37-6
TV: 3:30 Saturday, Big Ten Network
Blogs: Hammer and Rails, Boiled Sports
Last year's game was a cathartic, come-from-behind overtime win. It was the first win for IU in West Lafayette since 1996, a rare comeback win for an IU team that specialized in losing from ahead, and was the first overtime game in Bucket history. This will be the first time since 1997 that IU will be defending the Bucket at home, and IU is seeking its first back-to-back wins over Purdue since 1993-1994.
Of course, from the Purdue side, one of the storylines will be the future of Danny Hope. My outsider's perspective is that Hope is safe, absent something ridiculous and improbable such as a 30-point IU win, and might not be in trouble even then. For better or worse, Purdue AD Morgan Burke seems fairly conservative, and he has never had to fire a football or basketball coach that he hired. My guess is that Hope has a longer leash than Purdue fans would wish. Still, I don't blame Purdue fans for their disappointment. Hope was hired not because he was the best candidate after a national search, but because he had Purdue ties and was willing to spend a year as associate head coach as part of a succession plan. He wasn't hire to rebuild, but rather to sustain Joe Tiller's success, and he hasn't done that. In a sense, the successful Gene Keady-to-Matt Painter succession may have worked against Purdue's football program. I tend to think Purdue's basketball transition worked not because there was some magic to the process, but because Painter just so happened to be a natural fit and, most importantly, a much better coach than his resume or price tag suggested. Burke fell in love with the process, and determining whether Danny Hope had the chops to be a Big Ten head coach seems to be almost secondary. This makes the game fairly complicated for Purdue fans. On one hand, there are strong incentives to win: it's the Bucket game, and Purdue can become bowl eligible for the first time in four years (don't forget, at this point, Purdue's bowl drought is as long as IU's). On the other hand, as with IU fans last year, there is the nagging fear that a win would prolong the tenure of a failing coach.
Purdue, hasn't really stood out on offense or defense this year. Purdue is below the Big Ten and national average, although not way below like IU, in nearly every category, with punting and kickoff returns as the sole exceptions. Still, I would say the defense is probably more fearsome than Purdue's offense. Purdue has had only two really high scoring games (59 against Southeast Missouri and 45 against Minnesota) and Purdue's other wins have tended to involve hold the other team's offense in check, such as the win against Illinois, where the Illini were shut out for most of the day.
Purdue has been juggling quarterbacks all season, with Caleb TerBush as the starter but with Robert Marve seeing substantial action. Marve, a former elite recruit who initially played at Miami, probably is the bigger talent but the Purdue coaches seem less than enamored with his decision-making. Marve's play against Ohio State--an inexcusably stupid interception followed by success in the game-winning drive in overtime, seems to sum up his career pretty well. While Purdue fans have been clamoring for Marve, TerBush has been statistically superior, completing 61 percent of his passes and throwing 11 TDs to 6 INTs, as opposed to 54%/3TD/4INT for Marve. TerBush is a decent runner as well, netting 274 yards (2.5 ypc) and a TD on the ground.
In the backfield, Ralph Bolden has had a decent season in the wake of an ACL injury that cost him the 2010 season, and Akeem Shavers has contributed as well. None of Purdue's receivers have had standout seasons, but Antavian Edison, former QB Justin Siller, OJ Ross, and Gary Bush have contributed. On defense, CB Ricardo Allen is dangerous and leads the team with 3 interceptions. On special teams, Carson Wiggs has a realy strong leg but hasn't had a great season. He is 12-17 on the season, but is 2-3 from beyond 50 yards. DT Kawann Short has 16.5 tackles for loss, including 6.5 sacks. Linebacker Joe Holland is second on the team in tackles and has 6.5 TFL, including 1.5 sacks. Dwayne Beckford, also a linebacker, is the Boilermakers' leading tackler, so at least they have LBs and not defensive backs leading the team in tackles.
I really have no idea what to expect from this game. None at all. Only an IU blowout win would surprise me. Anything from, say, a 7 point IU win to a Tiller-style Purdue blowout win would seem within the realm of possibility. On one hand, IU is a very bad team with nary a win against a FBS opponent. Purdue is a mediocre, inconsistent team that has played poorly on the road, including a loss to a pretty awful Rice team. My guess is that the fairly generous 7.5 point spread is a reflection of a lack of confidence in Purdue away from home. A win over Purdue would not turn a bad season into a good one, but it would give IU's seniors (the first in four years to leave without a bowl appearance) a nice finish and would be a sign of some progress. Sadly, I'm just not feeling it, but remember that my predicted score last year was Purdue 45, IU 17. While I hope (heh) I am wrong...Purdue 31, Indiana 20.
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Difficult to call
I agree this will be a difficult game to call. IU plays best against one dimentional offensive teams, Penn State and Ohio State come to mind. When playing against a balanced offense it is nothing but trouble (Illinois, Northwestern, not to mention Wisc). For that reason they don’t match up to well. Purdue’s road record, plus the rival factor and IU chance to save face, I see
Indiana 31 Purdue 28
I thought we had no chance last year
Thankfully, we still had Hope (get it? Oh, nevermind). At this point, nothing would surprise me, either getting curb-stomped or winning the game by two touchdowns. Actually, that would surprise me. If we win, that would be awesome, and would make it a successful much more tolerable but still bad season. If we lose? OMG CODY ZELLER!
by hoosierdaddynow on Nov 23, 2011 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
Speaking of Purdue, I haven’t heard any “stoopid IU fans think Zeller is Jesus! Wait ’til Travis Carroll gets ahold of him!” comments lately.
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by John M (The Crimson Quarry) on Nov 23, 2011 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
Seriously?
Who in god’s name thought Carroll was going to do anything to Zeller? Maybe Hammons and Simpson next year, but he’d rip Carroll apart.
A futile crusade to prevent mass ignorance
HammerAndRails, SBNation's Boilermaker Blog
it was a Rivals message board debate a couple months ago
thoroughly entertaining. Flame wars are so much fun to sit back and watch
-Contributing Writer at The Crimson Quarry.
Yep, no feeling for this one.
I’ve only watched a bit of Purdue football – part of the Penn State game and the final 5 minutes + OT against OSU, and they looked… all right. The QB situation isn’t the complete disaster it was for parts of last year, but it’s not really good, either. I like Bolden with the ball – he’s a good back. The defense seems solid (against two awful offenses), although it was pretty clear they were worn out on the tying OSU drive.
Then, I watched the IU-MSU game. Obviously the Spartans are better than Purdue, but that was a complete whipping, a whipping that might have gone beyond the talent/experience differential. The Hoosiers might simply want the season over with at this point. The Boilers surely want the Bucket back, and they are playing for a possible postseason berth (maybe Detroit?). Motivation seems better, they are the better team… If I have to guess I think they’ll win by a couple of scores.
I agree Hope is safe.
I think beating Illinois and especially Ohio State sealed that, plus the recruiting class he has coming is actually middle of the Big Ten instead of last.
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HammerAndRails, SBNation's Boilermaker Blog
Any concerns about Appelby? I would have to think that he is getting lots of phone calls these days.
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by John M (The Crimson Quarry) on Nov 23, 2011 4:05 PM EST up reply actions
I follow Appleby on Twitter
Judging by what he says he is a solid Purdue commit.
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HammerAndRails, SBNation's Boilermaker Blog
Solid as a rock, if I may repeat my brother's reaction to your post
He’s gonna do what Gunner wouldn’t…granted the season IU’s had would make anyone think twice about a commitment.
I come from a land down unda
Carson Wiggs stats
Afraid that Carson is not perfect on XPs this year. His miss against Penn State was a significant factor in the Lion victory.
by Danwesley Meyer on Nov 23, 2011 9:51 PM EST reply actions
Somewhat of a dissapointment
For all the fan fair that everyone gave Wiggs coming into the season, I don’t think he has produced. I almost feel more confident if he is kicking a 60 yard field goal than if it is inside the 40.
Carson Wiggs is overrated
HE can kick it long, but misses too often to be elite.
by PurdueBoiler1995 on Nov 23, 2011 10:36 PM EST reply actions
He’s not overrated, there just hasn’t been many attempts or times he’s been given an opportunity to really do all that much this year unfortunately. His best chance for glory got muffed up at the end of the OSU game when Marve threw an INT instead of getting us five yards so Wiggs could kick a field goal.
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by Bryan Steedman on Nov 24, 2011 7:35 AM EST up reply actions
Purdue sux cocks n dix.
That is all.
"It's an easy game, man. Easy game."
~Edgerrin James
by 87 Rides A Surfboard on Nov 26, 2011 8:51 AM EST reply actions

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