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Tom Izzo, Tom Crean, and Michigan State.

 

This has been a very strange week.  Part of following sports, especially in the Internet age, is learning that a very low percentage of wacky rumors ever turn true.  Since the day after Penn State agreed to in 1989 join the Big Ten, speculation has abounded about the Big Ten’s twelfth member.  If reports are accurate, rumor will become reality today.  Similarly, for as long as Michigan State coach Tom Izzo has been leading the Spartans on deep NCAA Tournament runs, he has been the subject of offseason speculation about various NBA jobs.  Before this year, nothing suggested that those rumors were of any substance.  This year, however, there may be legs to the rumor that Tom Izzo will become the next coach of the Cleveland Cavaliers.  KJ at The Only Colors still believes that Izzo is likely to return to MSU, but Izzo has admitted to his players that he is considering becoming the Cavs’ coach.  Of course, not content to wait to see if the MSU job will become available, many sources already are compiling lists of potential candidates.  ESPN's Eamonn Brennan, formerly of Inside the Hall, talks about it a little bit.  Unsurprisingly, Tom Crean, Michigan native and former Izzo assistant, is an obvious "conventional wisdom" choice for these lists.  The Detroit News lists Crean as one of two "favorites" for the job (Dayton’s Brian Gregory, another former Izzo assistant, is the other).  Of course, that leads to two questions: would Crean take the job, and would MSU target him? 



On the first question, Indianapolis blogger Kent Sterling, formerly of 1070 The Fan, seems to think it is nearly a no-brainer:

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 It would be ridiculous to think that Crean wouldn’t crawl backward over broken glass up the Ruel W. Steele Memorial Highway to I-465 around the eastside of Indianapolis to I-69 up to East Lansing to take the job.  Michigan State is loaded like Lindsay Lohan on a week long Amsterdam bender, and Indiana is a long way from the nearest bar.


Michigan State, of course, is an excellent job, and if Izzo does leave, the Spartans’ returning roster will provide a new coach with a decent opportunity to advance to the Final Four and perhaps win a title in his first year.  On the other hand, it will be very difficult, perhaps impossible, for Izzo’s successor to approach Izzo’s level of success.  As this TOC post notes, when Izzo took over the Spartan program in 1995, MSU’s resume included 11 NCAA Tournament appearances, two Final Four appearances, and a single NCAA title (a title that MSU won in large part because one of the best players in the history of basketball happened to grow up in Lansing).  In 1995, Michigan State was a football school with an above average but not elite basketball tradition.  Today, after Tom Izzo’s incredible run of 13 NCAA appearances, 6 Final Fours, and another NCAA title, Michigan State is credibly mentioned as a top 10 historical power.  It will be a very good job for whomever lands it.  Still, it’s not a no-brainer, in my mind, that Tom Crean would leave another program with a top 10 tradition. My quick thoughts:

Why he might go:
  • Championship-caliber roster (no rebuild required);
  • Ties to Michigan State and to the state of Michigan;
  • Possible personal appeal by Izzo.
Why he might not:
  • IU's strong tradition;
  • Comfort level in Bloomington/disinterest in moving his family again;
  • Long-term job security may actually be better at IU;
  • Pride (not willing to leave IU with a .256 winning percentage).
To elaborate on a couple of my latter points, I think that Izzo's successor will have a tough time living up to Izzo's standards.  Michigan State had never experienced anything like its run of the last 12 seasons before Izzo, and probability suggests that the won't experience it with Izzo's successor.  The cliche about following the guy who follows the legend, instead of following the legend himself, has some truth to it.  It's fairly unusual to change jobs within a conference, and I do not ever recall it happening in Big Ten basketball (I know Alex Agase, a football coach, moved from Northwestern to Purdue in the early 1970s--anyone recall any others?  Gary Moeller once was the coach at Illinois, but he was fired years before succeeding Bo Schemechler at Michigan.  Also, John Pont moved from IU to Northwestern to succeed Agase, but I believe Pont was fired by IU). 

As to the last point, I would never suggest that Crean owes it to IU to stick around if he would rather be somewhere else.  IU gave him a good opportunity, but Crean walked away from a good situation at Marquette, and probably did not fully realize what he was walking into in Bloomington.  I’m sure Crean doesn’t want to spend the rest of his career being heckled by IU fans for bailing.  I’m not sure that would be enough to keep him away from Michigan State, but it must be a factor.  If he leaves now, he will go down in history as the least successful coach in the history of a storied program. I tend to think that even if Izzo leaves, Crean will stick, but in the last three years or so, all IU-related optimism has been unfounded. 

Finally, I suppose it's necessary to consider whether Crean's initial struggles at IU would have turned MSU off.  That's impossible to answer, I guess, but if some IU fans (not me) are grumbling about Crean's progress, then some outside the program may be less than sold as well. 

This is, of course, very premature speculation, and I have no answers or firm opinions.  Still, if Izzo goes to Cleveland, this interesting offseason could become very dramatic for IU. 

 

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I would be stunned if Crean goes to MSU.

I think you’re right about the pride factor, that Crean won’t want to leave before he gets things turned around at IU. If/when he does, it’ll truly be his program. Certainly nobody could accuse him of riding Sampson’s coattails, and at MSU, he would always be compared to Izzo—and that would be an awfully hard comparison to win. And of course, there’s the issue of whether he’d be MSU’s first pick at all. Fair or not, his stock probably isn’t as high as it was at Marquette.

My guess is that MSU would try to get Brad Stevens or Jamie Dixon, and if that doesn’t work, Brian Gregory will come back to East Lansing. But hopefully this won’t be an issue at all (and the longer Izzo waits to make a decision, I think the more likely it is that he returns).

by LVS on Jun 11, 2010 11:01 AM EDT reply actions  

Rediculous commentary

for many reasons. But the biggest that you don’t even mention: Crean has a $3M buyout on his contract. No way MSU is going to pay that.

by ruascott on Jun 11, 2010 3:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Brad Stevens just signed a 12 yr contract at over a million per

his buyout could very well be even more than that, today. It would be awesome if people would think about this stuff before crazy speculation

by Santos Sorrow on Jun 11, 2010 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not convinced that $3 million is all that onerous if MSU really thinks he is the guy. IU paid $650,000 to Marquette for Crean’s buyout (I’m not sure if Crean threw in any of his own money) and $750,000 to Sampson to get rid of him. So, not counting Crean’s pay the Sampson-Crean transition cost IU $1.4 million. $3 million is more than that but not absurdly more. If MSU were certain that Crean were the right guy, I don’t see why that number would be a dealbreaker.

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by John M (The Crimson Quarry) on Jun 11, 2010 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's a good commentary.

$3 mil isn’t that much money for one of the more successful college basketball programs in the land. They have a huge incentive to maintain that image. Your comment is the more “rediculous” of the two.

by LTTelamon on Jun 11, 2010 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

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