Hoosier Headlines for February 12, 2010: Wisconsin pregame, Ohio State postgame, and media hairpulling.
by John M (The Crimson Quarry) on Feb 12, 2010 8:23 AM EST
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Painter adding touch of green to IU fan base (1070 the Fan)
Oh goodness, Montieth. Painter is a good coach. Purdue has a very good team this year. But we're not jealous of Purdue. Montieth says: "Fact is, Purdue is dominating in-state recruiting for the first time since the mid-1960s, when it signed three consecutive Mr. Basketballs." Fact is, Mark, Purdue hasn't signed a Mr. Basketball since Glenn Robinson in 1991. IU has the reigning Mr. Basketball on its roster, has signed two of the last three, and three of the last six. The retort will be that Mr. Basketball isn't the be-all and end-all, and that's true. But neither are trophies awarded for "dominating Indiana recruiting." IU and Purdue have had strong programs at the same time in the past. Obviously, I'm impressed by what Purdue is doing and wish IU were in a better position, but one has nothing to do with another. If anything, Purdue's current status should give IU hope. When the Hummel/Moore/Johnson/Martin class signed in November 2006, Purdue had won a total of 16 games in the previous two seasons (one ahead of where IU is now for the last two seasons). Declaring the permanent demise of Purdue would have been foolish then. Predicting the permanent dominance of Purdue now is just as foolish. -
Tough stint awaits Hoosiers, starting at Wisconsin (Indiana Daily Student)
"IU recently lost its fifth consecutive game but now embarks on a stretch tougher than any other this season. It starts with a 2 p.m. game against the No. 11 Badgers on Saturday in Madison, Wis. Competition within the Big Ten so far has shaken up the young team IU coach Tom Crean called "fragile" Wednesday night. "
Despite losing Indiana tries to look forward (The News-Sentinel - Fort Wayne IN)
"Time might move forward, but this Indiana basketball team seems stuck in unwanted regression. Blame it on youth, fatigue, brutal schedule, Kelvin Sampson, it doesn’t matter. The Hoosiers play at Wisconsin Saturday and the only certainty is that the No. 11 Badgers will not feel sorry for them."
Badgers look to stay in race against Indiana (The Daily Cardinal)
"Indiana is still under a new regime with second-year head coach Tom Crean. During Crean’s first season, Indiana won only one Big Ten contest all season. This year’s campaign appeared more promising after a 3-3 start in conference play, but a five-game losing streak for the Hoosiers put the team near the basement of the Big Ten, thus Saturday represents a golden opportunity for the Badgers to grab a conference victory."
Ask the Expert Reborn: Batch No. 2 (Hoosiers Insider | The Indianapolis Star)
"You say yourself that Crean inherited a bad situation. He put together a patchwork first recruiting class at the last minute with some restrictions in place imposed on the previous staff. This class was significantly better but expecting major improvement right away was probably a reach. I picked the Hoosiers to finish 12-18 in the regular season and 13-19 when you factored in the Big Ten Tournament. That would mean four more wins which right now looks like a reach. But the point is, I don't think this team is that far from where I expected and my prediction was based on having Maurice Creek and Matt Roth healthy this season."
Catching up with IU commitment Will Sheehey (Inside the Hall)
"That street runs both ways, of course. Sheehey has been keeping close tabs on the Hoosiers as well, watching as many of their games this season as he can. He said he’s encouraged by what he’s seen, and expects the Hoosiers’ second season of struggles to make them stronger in the end. "All these tight games that they’re playing, that just helps experience," Sheehey said, adding that he chose IU for the chance to play with the Hoosiers’ corps of young talent."
Buckeyes tied atop Big Ten (BuckeyeXtra)
"Tonight was far more mental than anything else. They got way too many easy baskets," said Indiana coach Tom Crean, who stayed in the locker room with his players for nearly an hour before attending his postgame news conference.
A Buckeye blowout (Post-Tribune)
"We might have a couple of guys, but we just don't have enough guys that understand how to respond," Crean said of adversity. "We probably have a couple that are choosing not to respond, but we'll figure all that out. I know where we sit."
First_half drought buries Hoosiers (The Journal Gazette, Fort Wayne, Ind.)
"The game began to unravel for IU toward the end of the first half when the Hoosiers didn’t score a point in the final 6:07. The Buckeyes closed the half on a 12-0 run and didn’t look back, handing Indiana (9-14, 3-8 Big Ten) its fifth straight loss."
Buckeyes thump dispirited Hoosiers (The Indianapolis Star)
"Sorry for the delay," Crean said when he emerged 30 minutes later than normal to speak with the media, "but the most important thing for us right now is to make sure we get our mentality back with this team. There's no excuse for not playing better tonight, but it's a situation where we don't have anything in the tank to fall back on when things aren't going well for us.
Hoosiers fall apart again during loss to Ohio State (TIM ETHRIDGE COLUMN " Evansville Courier & Press)
"Thad Matta knows who he can rely on. Tom Crean is still trying to figure it out."
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Monteith is an ass
Always has been. I was glad when he left Fort Wayne.
by hoosierdaddynow on Feb 12, 2010 9:29 AM EST reply actions
Never heard him in Fort Wayne when Iived there
was he on WOWO or something. From what I read above I’m glad he’s not in the Fort either. Purdue will soon go back to it’s rightful place, which is behind IU when it comes to everything. They’ve still haven’t accomplished much tournament wise so when they do I might entertain some talk but not now. They were much better during the Robinson era but IU and Cheaney and Co was better and always will be.
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by Ditkavsworld on Feb 12, 2010 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
I may be wrong, but I believe that Montieth was the IU beat writer for the Star before Terry Hutchens took over in the late 1990s. A quick internet search also reveals that he wrote a knockoff of “Season on the Brink” about Gene Keady. Maybe he never was the Star’s IU guy—I never read the Star regularly before the late 1990s—but I do recall him being somewhat unpopular with IU fans in the mid-to-late 90s, although not as unpopular as Bill Benner and Robin Miller were. I don’t know when he was in the Fort or in what capacity. He later was the Star’s Pacers beat writer (again, I’m going on recall) and I didn’t realize that he was on 1070.
At best, these articles are premature. The 2011 and 2012 classes have quite a bit of talent. But I think what’s most offensive is the idea that with a Sweet 16 and a BTT title and a few weeks in the Top 10, Purdue has somehow matched the Knight era, in which IU was one of the top 2 or 3 programs in college basketball from the early 1970s through the early 1990s. And our current coach not only has more Final Four appearances that Purdue’s current coach, he has more Final Four appearances than the guy whose name is on Purdue’s basketball coach. Again, this all could happen, but it’s just ridiculous to jump to these conclusions.
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by John M (The Crimson Quarry) on Feb 12, 2010 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
Monteith wrote for the Journal Gazette
But this is going back into the 80’s. It was probably the late 80’s or early 90’s when he left to go to Indy. I think he was Purdue’s beat writer back then.
Ditkavsworld: I do not think that Purdue’s basketball program will be “behind” IU’s any time soon. I do believe that IU will draw even in the next couple of years, and that the BT championship will go through the State of Indiana. At least I hope so. For much of the last 15 years, this has been Sparty’s conference, and they’re not going anywhere. Neither is tOSU. The conference as a whole is more solid now than it was during IU’s heyday. I don’t think you’ll ever see another 20+-year sustained run of Big Ten domination like you saw from those IU teams between 1974 and 1993. So, John, you are absolutely correct that it is asinine (and IU-fan-baiting) to compare Painter’s success with Knight’s. He’s a good coach. But he has a long way to go to get there.
by hoosierdaddynow on Feb 12, 2010 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
And, by the way
If Indy is looking for any new journalistic transplants from Fort Wayne, let me be the first to offer you Ben Smith. Please.
by hoosierdaddynow on Feb 12, 2010 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
Always liked Ben Smith, I think Diprimo is pretty good as well.
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by Ditkavsworld on Feb 12, 2010 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not saying Purdue will suck for an extended period...
but I can dream can’t I? I do agree that we should see some balancing coming about here in the near future as IU program matures with better talent and more Crean recruited players. My main concern is that we become more of what we were in the early 90’s and less like the tail end of Knights career and the debacle that began with MD and ended with the KS embarassment.
I guess I don’t know who Monteith is because we got the News Sentinel and well I wasn’t much into reading the paper in the 80’s and 90’s. He was probably gone by the mid 90’s when I actually started to care about the news more.
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by Ditkavsworld on Feb 12, 2010 1:20 PM EST up reply actions
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